> One day she came to our house with our daughter in tow
So she's grabbing other people's kids off the street? She sounds unhinged. I'd do everything I could to get a restraining order.
So she's grabbing other people's kids off the street? She sounds unhinged. I'd do everything I could to get a restraining order.
Given I am Canadian, here is our legal definition:
Kidnapping
279 (1) Every person commits an offence who kidnaps a person with intent
(a) to cause the person to be confined or imprisoned against the person’s will;
(b) to cause the person to be unlawfully sent or transported out of Canada against the person’s will; or
(c) to hold the person for ransom or to service against the person’s will.
You could argue the child did not want to be sent back home, but I think you would not be successful making this case in a court of law.
Escalating this by reporting her to the police will simply cause her to escalate back.
She reports you to CAS, you report her to the police. You now face a false police report charge, and if anything further happens you already have one strike against you as the police will document this interaction.
Clearly the child is in no danger, so what was the point of calling the police?
trust me, that's not a good feeling. especially if i am alone and i have to decide if i should wait to see if they come back or if i go search them.
if i think young kids are in a dangerous location, then i'd stay there and watch them, and call someone who can notify the parents. or i might tell the kids that it is dangerous here and tell them to go home. (if the kids say they are supposed to wait here, then that is what should happen). i would not just move them somewhere else, even to their home, unless explicitly asked to do so.
i would make an exception to this if i know the parents well, and i know the parents trust me to take care of their kids. but in that case i'd know how to reach the parents and let them know.
" All 50 states and the District of Columbia have some type of Good Samaritan law. The details of good Samaritan laws/acts vary by jurisdiction, including who is protected from liability and under what circumstances. "
I'm not advocating what what took place was correct but it is not "kidnapping" regardless of how you wish to twist things around.
I have three kids, so I am also a parent, does that change things? you mention you are a parent so it somehow contributes to the discussion?
you have now taken a story about an v "karen" walking a kid back home and painted it such that "Karern" has driven across the country and now you cant find the child.
i am aware of good samaritan laws. but protecting children from danger is one thing. removing them from a location where i expect them to be is quite another. there would have to be some obvious danger that wasn't there previously for that to be ok. (like a fire, or even just heavy rain and no nearby shelter)
i don't care what the legal term for this is. i care what effect the action has on the people involved. before you take children away from somewhere, think about that, and try to find a way to protect the children without moving them unless you can inform the parents or authorities.
We didn't have any trouble after that. But it was very very stressful.