I'm always terrified that corporate will eventually decide to cut slack from the budget and stick with Teams.
I feel so sorry for those who continue operating in such soulless, life-sucking work environments that they're down to choosing which horrible attention-grabbing SaaS product they'd rather use.
Have you not considered simply using neither? What is wrong with email? Hell, what's wrong with a phone call?
You have to remember to take notes.
I hate going to find something in Slack history and seeing a phone call right around where I think important information may have been conveyed. At best, I have to go look other places to find it. At worst, there's nothing. And since I may not have been on the call, it may not even be possible for me to have notes, short of bugging the people who participated and hoping they took notes.
This even goes for personal stuff. I much prefer when my wife sends me important info via chat (not Slack, in this case) rather than calling, unless it's super time-sensitive, for basically the same reason.
Email evades the objection to calls, sure, but I've yet to see an email client that doesn't suck for low-friction multiparty chat. Yes, including gmail. I'm pretty sure this could be solved by a client, but I've not seen it, and I think part of the problem is having to accommodate other clients' default quoting behavior and threading and such, so it may be something that could technically be solved by a good client, but couldn't in fact be solved by a client.
>attention-grabbing
Your solution is to add more and more annoying things unnecessarily in an effort to side-step the problem.
I think there should be an examination of the root causes and more post-mortems to actually understand what went wrong and why the solution didn't work either.
You want to keep piling on in a rather psychopathic manner:
Phone tag --> SMS --> Email --> AIM --> MySpace --> Facebook --> Twitter --> Instagram --> Snapchat --> TikTok --> ???????
You even do this in other posts, defending the idea of the suicide prevention hotline before even discussing wtf might be causing people to be suicidal. [0] People like you are why we are rapidly shedding any semblance of progress in the Western world.
It's as if people had never before considered that what they are doing is actually very toxic for the world and our planet. It's as if you hate being reminded that people that support Slack and Microsoft are basically the devil incarnate.
Better for you and better for the team! Cause I wouldn't want to work with someone who would do that.
Almost everything about Slack is better. It's easier to manage conversations/channels. It's easier to read. It's easier to write. It's easier to customize.
The only thing I've heard is that Slack is unstable for some people. I haven't experienced any stability issues in 3+ years using the MacOS app. I've heard that the Slack web interface may be the cause of stability issues.
We have Slack in my organization, but corporate has started using Teams for the past year. I think the writing is on the wall, and I'm dreading it.
It may sound silly, but “we use Slack instead of Teams” would not be insignificant in the consideration of whether to accept a new job.
My bigger problem with teams is their multi-Team model. In between my current and last job, I (part time) contracted with a handful of groups and every single one added me to their Slack or Teams group. With Slack, they popped up as separate orgs and I could move between them as I needed. With Teams, I had to log out of one to open the other.
I will never know how many questions I missed (aka billable hours) and people I annoyed by "ignoring" them when I had simply had to join some other group's Teams to take a call and forgot to come back to their Teams.
It's been like this for at least a year and a half, and I've submitted it through the "feedback form" countless times.
Ps.: Interestingly enough, in Pavucontrol the application shows up as "Skype", with the icon and all.
I can’t imagine why someone would build that and then think “This is it. This is good enough.”
Hopefully my customers will keep using Slack.
I have clients that create external accounts for me under their domain. Once signed in, I can no longer sign into a different account, so my meeting with other clients have Company A in my email... kind of odd.
Of course, I can't actually create a personal Teams account, because my company does not use Teams.
So, I decided to burn everything MS Teams related out of my home directory, and start fresh. I am now a guest user for every company that needs calls done via Teams.
Arguably a worse off solution, no?
Assuming homedir is on a Linux machine.
It doesn't even matter if the choices and ergonomics are better or worse... Since it's just not-Slack, it gets rejected by a certain (IMO quite large) share of the population.
My company tried to switch to Teams and there was practically an employee uprising... it now sticks to Teams for all non-eng while eng does Slack.
Why did the other depts stick to Teams?
Your comment seems to precisely prove my point, when reading it from my seat :D
eng usually knows about tech tools better than other departments.
For programs: Ask the finance department about Sage and excel and they will have opinions.
You misunderstand. They didn't have a say.
Main thing though is the default-open. If you don't get that, well that's ok, many people don't.