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Visual Code, I guess obviously. Has mostly overtaken both Emacs and Vim.

That's like saying the phone has overtaken the horse.

I doubt many people sshing into a box using vim will choose visual code. There might have been some people using vim for daily development who switched but probably not many

vscode actually is very convenient when working on remote machines. You'll run the vscode editor on your own box, but have it access the remote's filesystem over ssh. https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/ssh

Probably overkill for occasional remote file editing (it'll run some server component on the remote machine), but pretty good for more involving remote development work.

Switched from vim to vscode with vimmode for the key bindings. Od definitely include it on the list for the extensibility and features.

> I doubt many people sshing into a box using vim will choose visual code.

Actually I do just that.

With the remote development tools I can open a remote folder in vscode and edit from there. And when I start terminals, they're going to start a shell on the remote linux box.

Everything via ssh.

It's like saying that the electric car engine has overtaken the oil-based car engine.

Really? Did you miss the part where both of them are editors?

Are you opening visual code in your putty session to edit a config variable? They are as similiar as word and pico.

No, but that's for basic text editing only. Anything more serious and you spending 2 hours per 6 hour development time configuring vim.

You configure Vim Daily? For every Task? Wow!

I have once .vimrc configured for all the languages that I use/know. Whenever I work with a new client. I pull that .vimrc on the allocated machine. Run PluginInstall and in minutes I am ready to go!

I would claim the opposite — VSCode is nearly unusable without very heavy customization unless you're fine with being very inefficient. Hotkeys for many common operations are not assigned out of the box. Without that, using it involves driving the interface with both the mouse and the keyboard. Those that are assigned are awkward and look like they've been designed for a spider since they require you to reach keys on the opposite sides of the keyboard. I always get the feeling that its own authors don't use it for anything more complicated than editing /etc/hosts, although it's quite obviously not true.

Overtaken how? Download size? Startup time? Ubiquitous availability? Number of kernel hackers who use it as their daily driver? What's your metric?

Memory usage and CPU time ! Heyooo!

I remember when Emacs was viewed as requiring a lot of resources (in the early 1990s) and I remember the sysadmin of our shared UNIX system scolding us if we had more than one emacs process running (as opposed to opening multiple files in different buffers).

The old joke was that EMACS stood for Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping. Of course, eight megs is nothing these days.

Not a fan of vscode (or emacs, which it “has overtaken”, not vim), but I think it fits OP’s first paragraph.

Popularity, features, quality. I still use Emacs myself but I'm not fucking blind.

Relax and open your eyes.

I've been using VSCode kinda on and off, but I haven't learned it properly yet. Do you think it's truly worth it? It seems to me like you'd use it mainly when you don't have access to a full IDE, so I haven't really found a niche yet.

VSCode is magical in my experience. I say this as a 20 year emacs user, and 10 year Vim user.

VSCode is good. But it is a memory hog compared to Vim. I need that memory for my compile/simulate tasks.

I wish someone could show me actual repl work in vscode for a lisp or erlang. It sometimes gets the way there, but doesn't to make it.

I think the plugin writers are either shoe-horned by VCCodes lack of plugin capability or they are basing their work off some other toolings expected behavior and it doesn't "sit right" with how I work.

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