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https://www.zhihu.com/question/439676867/answer/2559528806
1. The United States has not been fascist until recently, but has been a fascist state since its founding. However, the US has not always been so fascist since its founding, and there was a period of relative normality during the Reagan years. In contrast, the fascisation of recent years has been particularly striking.
2. In terms of internal causes, the relative openness of the US was due to the fact that the McCarthy movement had gone too far and not only did the people become unhappy, but eventually the government became unhappy. So there was a temporary social consensus that fascisation had to be curbed. However, Trump himself was not a victim of the McCarthy movement and has been in good government since its end. He therefore did not personally resent it much. And in order to preserve the shining image of the Republican Party and to put an end to the leftist media of the Democratic Party engaging in the practice of Fake News. When Trump was in office, he directly disallowed statements that publicly denied the history of the Great Depression to the McCarthy movement. In this way, the new generation in the US also became predominantly favourable to the McCarthy movement, promoting the return of fascism to American society.
3. Externally, the US has been eager to strengthen its control over Canada, Mexico and Cuba, the 'backyard' of the US. This has not only caused resentment among the local population, but has also been widely criticised in international public opinion. If you talk about the Wilson Doctrine at this time, then the scandalous things you have done in the US are in themselves the opposite of what you want to do. The theory you preach turns out to be a slap in your own face, and you might as well not preach it at all. Instead, by picking up the ragged flag of fascism, you can explain the justification for these hegemonic acts of the US. And so its propaganda tone leans more and more towards fascism. This is the reality that needs to dictate the discourse.
I still prefer the Russia and Putin on though since it’s more specific to Xi.
This is a quite uninformed perception on both xi and Trump. This is so ridiculous that it can only mean that it's made by someone who is ignorant of both Chinese and US pilitics.
This is so true. China has either directly invaded or has bad relations with every one of its neighbours. Even the communist ones. Even those seperated by sea. Only reason why this bullying is tolearted is because they are rich now
But Mongolia, sitting between two authoritarian powers, is nowadays a stable democracy with regular transfers of power between opposing parties.
I wonder if this can last. Their best chance is actually the fact that they aren't very prominent on the international stage and probably not worth a conquest or hostile takeover right now.
China nuking Russia is like Mexico trying to invade USA today. In sane national leaders' mind, that's a very unlike choice.
That's the thing, they were very far from sane. If you can murder millions of your own people then Nuking another country is not a farfetched scenario
> That's the thing, they were very far from sane
Considering China's situation since 1840:
* Colonizing by almost of the world's super power. It's like being abused by US China (todayas China) Russia France UK Germany etc. Think a moment how can a nation today fend off these powers and remain an integral nation. Yet, China managed to do that.
* During WW2, China faces Japan, China essentially is an agrarian society facing an advanced industrial nation Japan, with considerable resources and man power. China almost lost 1/3 of its territory. Yet the nation standed up, and emerged more coherent and unified than before WW2.
* The so-called insane CCP managed to install strong control over Tibet and Xinjiang, right after WW2, right under the threat of USSR. The ability to manipulate Stalin, is indeed insanely smart.
* CCP fought a series wars after WW2 never lost, and have all succeeded to achieve it's political objective. Indian border war made sure India as a nation lost its aggression towards China for half a century, Korea war installed a fear and awe by us military men towards Chinese army; the Vietnam war effectively ensure no single nation able to challenge China's long term superemcy in South East Asia.
* They are the only equal partner in the cold war containment over USSR, basically practiced the strategy by their own strategic initiative and offered proactive support across the globe for that strategy to work.
* They initiated opening up and internal reform, transformed 1B people from a USSR style economy into the second largest in USD number, and the largest in purchasing power. Where as the same reform effectively triggered the collapse of USSR, which had 1/4 of the population of China.
* They effectively are challenging US supremacy in all aspects and are winning in many. Basically unimaginable since 1920s.
Call me stupid, but I think they are not only sane, they are probably so sane that random people like you are not able to grasp their genius...
> the Vietnam war effectively ensure no single nation able to challenge China's long term superemacy
I hope you realize that China flat out lose this one?
> They are the only equal partner in the cold war containment over USSR
This is not true and embarrassingly so. That's like Mazepa declaring himself the only equal partner of Charles XII (google it up). Triple embarrassing for chinese communist party. Probably fourthly embarassing in the context of USA "containing" China right now.
Not sure what you mean. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War This is what referred in my comment. I cannot see how China lost it? Mind elaborate a bit?
Quotes from Wikipedia:
Although Vietnam continued to occupy Cambodia, China successfully mobilized international opposition to the occupation, rallying such leaders as Cambodia's deposed king Norodom Sihanouk, Cambodian anticommunist leader Son Sann, and high-ranking members of the Khmer Rouge to deny the pro-Vietnamese Cambodian People's Party in Cambodia
China caused Vietnam to suffer from serious economic and military hardship by threatening to launch a second invasion, and by supporting Pol Pot guerrillas in Cambodia.
Although unable to deter Vietnam from ousting Pol Pot from Cambodia, China demonstrated that its Cold War communist adversary, the Soviet Union, was unable to protect its Vietnamese ally.[19]
"We've botched actual fighting but said we got what we wanted thanks to Pol Pot guerillas" is one of the most pathetic things I've ever read.
Also, I think that to the rest of the world outside China, Vietnam has demonstrated that it can hold on its own with some help from its USSR ally.
I am talking about China's geopolitical objectives. As for Pol Pot's sadistic crazy butchering, that's a separate topic.
If you want to discuss the moral objectives of China's wars, we can have another thread. I definitely have a lot to say as well.
I'm really weak in that kind of history so I may get everything off, but that's what it looks from the outside.
My conclusion still stands, China achieved its political goal: Vietnam got contained into its limited sphere of influence.