Why is a proprietary communication tools is a problem?
What's next? It's gonna be a shameful practice to use windows for development?
What's next? It's gonna be a shameful practice to use windows for development?
You're signaling to all contributors that you don't value their freedom or privacy.
Not everyone wants to give their data to a corporation. Some users have accessibility needs that straight aren't met by Discord's clients and they send cease-and-desists to every attempt at people to try to make a better or safer alternative client experience free of charge. The fact that there are free and libre alternatives, but choosing not use or at least support an alternative alongside shows your project's priorities (see: Libera.Chat, mailing lists, Matrix, Zulip, Fediverse, RSS/Atom feeds, hosting Discourse, et. al.).
> What's next? It's gonna be a shameful practice to use windows for development?
Slippery nope.
I'm sure this project's community would welcome a contribution to mirror their git in a read-only state somewhere else, because why wouldn't they? Similarly, I'm sure they'd be fine with collaborating on setting up bidirectional chat bots so you can communicate with them as you want.
But to expect these things from a nascent project seems ridiculous. We're not talking about React or Spring here, we're talking about a brand new project who should be investing as much time as possible making their software work, not catering to every potential communications niche.
If you've decided that contributing to someone else's code on Github violates your sense of ethics or privacy, that's well within your rights and I respect you for it, but you must have enough self-awareness to recognize that that puts you in the far extreme of digital ethicists. And that shouldn't come with an expectation that your ethics have been catered to.
Instead, you bifurcated your community that is passionate about FOSS and privacy from those that aren't.
You seem to have a very distorted view of developers, the vast majority of free software developers are going to have either an IRC client or a Matrix client installed already.
I don't know a single person in any professional context that doesn't have one of Slack, Teams, or Discord installed.
I may be overstating how much smaller your pool is, but to say that choosing Discord or Slack doesn't grossly expand your reach is just naive.
So it's probably just that, different bubbles that rarely intersect.
I don’t think software freedom is a focus of this project. They can’t cater to every unrelated hobby issue.
> shows your project's priorities
Yeah - the priority isn’t software freedom. They can’t prioritise everything.
I guess they'll move on somewhere else? Likelihood seems low, impact seems low. Why spend energy on it?
> To me for open source project we need a way to archive the discussion and make it public not tight to any company or so.
Ok but that's what you're interested in. Most people aren't into that.
I don't get why you'd expect all projects to be focused on your particular hobby interests?
Maybe I love typography. Why isn't this project paying more attention to the typography in their website damnit!
many services don't really migration of the data. Why would I want my data stuck some where?
Nobody wants their data stuck - people assess the likelihood of that as low and the impact as low, so rationally don’t care about it.
If one of my personal projects was unilaterally deleted right now by GitHub it’d be annoying to lose my issues but I could recover ok. And I don’t think it’s likely anyway, so why worry?
People only have so much energy to spend worrying about things. Most would spend it building instead.
Can’t be that hard to understand?
Disagree strongly with this. It signals to me that the developer cares more about building a good thing than standing up FOSS tools to appease the zealots. Seems very pragmatic.