Note: This isn't me saying I support or don't support Trump.
Note: This isn't me saying I support or don't support Trump.
Here's a map showing where all the votes were cast:
https://engaging-data.com/county-electoral-map-land-vs-popul...
1. More Americans live in suburbs than in urban areas, so they actually represent a larger share of the popular vote.
2. The electoral does not actually bias small states that significantly. California’s share of the popular vote was 11.0% in 2020, while it cast 10.2% of EVs.
3. The electoral college primarily biases large, tipping point states. Biden won California by a 63-34 landslide, while trump won Florida 51-48. In both cases, each candidate gets 100% of the electoral votes rather than a proportional amount.
4. Finally, the electoral college biases low turnout states vs high turnout ones, as EC votes are based on population and senators not actual votes themselves. In 2016 for example, Texas cast fewer votes than Florida, even though it is the second biggest state by population, and it got to cast 7 move EC votes.
As an aside, it’s always telling that when this debate comes up, people will always say that “California and New York will decide the election”, referencing the largest and fourth largest states, while leaving out Texas and Florida, the second and third largest…
2. As my comment outlines, the electoral college actually does very little to protect minority interests.
3. Further, it has almost never actually worked as the founders intended. They didn’t predict the existence of political parties and expected the electoral college to actually involved real debates and voting within the body itself, not as it works today where they are essentially decided before they attend. The founders intended for the EC to be a filtering step among a multitude of candidates before the final election was decided by the house, voting as state level blocs.
What you’re arguing is post hoc rationalization that doesn’t even fit the facts on the ground.
Does NASCAR bestow awards based on how much fuel you used?
Does Wimbledon award prize money for how fast you smack a tennis ball?
Using an irrelevant metric to claim a make-believe victory is simply childish and emotional.
Presidential candidates win elections based on the electoral college votes, themselves decided by the popular vote outcome in each state. In 2016, Trump won more states, thusly more EC votes. Therefore he became president and Hillary was sent back to the over-priced lecture circuit.
Any other metric you use to decide who won is simply self-delusion.
When your state is a single dude standing in a field filled with cows, getting the popular vote doesn't say much.
1. https://beef2live.com/story-cattle-inventory-vs-human-popula...
Your comment implies that the needs of these states is somehow less important in the governance of our nation.
Getting rid of the electoral college system in favor of popular vote isn't enough. A couple states drive the productive, agricultural, intellectual and economic engines of our country. In a meritocracy, these states would dictate federal policy. Instead they're subject to the capricious whims of deadbeats. Another way to put it: who really needs who?
Some players are MJ or Kobe or Lebron, some sit on the bench. That's life.
Only a minority of people did.
What’s wild about 2016 is that people seem to have bought into the narrative that because it was such an upset of the mainstream media’s expectations, that somehow that translated into an actual landslide.
Trump didn’t win the popular vote, and his actual margin in the decisive states was razor thin as well.
Did he have more passionate fans than Hilary? Clearly. But a passion vote counts the exact same amount as a “lesser of two evils” vote. See: 2020.
It's the whole reason startups go for natural marketing. Users that naturally come upon and love your product will proselyte it more and better than anyone else.
The entire media apparatus with only a few notable exceptions worked tirelessly to undermine Trump at every opportunity and suppress negative stories about Biden. There was almost no media coverage of Biden’s obvious mental decline, lack of energy to campaign, low rally turnout, his son’s incriminating laptop, blatantly racist comments made by Biden both during his decades serving as a Senator and even during the campaign (such as the infamous “you ain’t black” comment on Charlamagne tha God’s show.
I and a lot of other people strongly disagreed with both his policies and his character, which were on plain display constantly and unfiltered on Twitter.
What the media, both the social and traditional varieties, did to Trump is disgusting and goes way beyond bias. It was a targeted campaign with the goal of undermining and removing him from office from the moment he won the election. Propping up and protecting Biden was a means to an end.
I have absolutely no idea how this could be good science.
Especially given the outcome of 2020.
How'd that work out in 2020?
By 2020, no one was underestimating Trump anymore, and it was clear people cared enough to vote him out for real. The energy at his rallies was no longer there. His subreddit, where the massive following was making strong waves during 2016 elections, was gone. Hillary not running anymore helped as well.
And that's just the most obvious things.
In 2020, obviously senile and charisma-void, candidate Joe Biden surprisingly manifested ~81 (Edit: actually 8) million more votes than the 'second-coming of Christ' Barack Obama before him, while speaking to low double-digit audiences at his rally stops. Really makes you think.
Edit: in 2020 Biden received 81,284,000 votes , Trump 74,221,000 votes, while in 2008 Obama got 69,498,516 votes
Thanks to the user remarking on the error. It's the kind of mistake that happens when you rewrite a comment ten times.
If my interpretation is correct, then I think you're missing the big factor that conservatives and registered Republicans actively campaigned for Biden. They didn't just reject Trump, they explicitly said they were voting Biden, Campaigned for him, asked their fellow GOP members to vote Biden over Trump.
At the end of the day, you had Democrats + Independents + Conservatives voting Biden. That coalition didn't exist during Obama's time. In fact, the people who most likely voted for Romney were the people who were now voting for Biden