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Any kind of self-promotion is unpleasant, except to other self-promoters. For them its competitive. And yes, this includes the virtue emojis on Twitter and GitHub.

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I live in South Florida, a little bit above Miami, and work out of this little co-working space. A couple weeks ago, a new member joined, and after talking with him a bit, I learned that he had worked on the founding team for some very famous technology (don't want to name it publicly). So pretty impressive, but the guy is down to earth and humble about it, which I really respected.

Some other people in the space (non-technical people) thought it was weird that he wasn't more outspoken about his accomplishments, and they even went so far as to doubt that he was heavily involved.

As an introvert, to hear people dismiss someone on the basis of them not boasting about themselves really stuck with me. I just can't express how vulgar I find that viewpoint, and my opinion of the people who dismissed the guy has changed irrevocably.

This is an extremely ironic comment

I don't understand, why is it ironic?

Because this person has made an irrevocable judgement on the way people performed because of their judgement based on how another person performed. For the very thing he was criticising them about: judging based on appearance of the situation the reality of it, he has done the same to them, but even worse, with explicit malice! I can't really imagine how someone could think they are the good guy in this situation

Finding distaste in other peoples sayings is not malice.

EDIT: I would agree with the post you were referring to, if someone were to judge me based on my boasting I'd rather not work with them because I'd have to put much effort into working around them misjudging me.

Please don't judge me on my absence of boasting.

Who said it was? I would be interested in how you parsed that from my comment

EDIT: Oh you added a bunch of extra stuff now, please don't ninja edit like that

I added a marker to match your style of editing.

Eh, I'm not going to expend energy trying to have this discussion. I'll leave it at this - I think your comment is very poorly reasoned.

I think the key to being happy as an introvert is not depending on the approval and adoration of others for your accomplishments. If you do, you're going to be bitter and toxic over not getting it when you feel you should.

For sure. I bet the guy wouldn't care if he knew they were dismissing him behind his back. But still, it made me angry because there's this whole "networking" culture down here, and it's all very superfluous and scammy.

Now imagine those people being recruiters, bosses and other gate keepers with considerable power over careers. It's dangerous to be a humble introvert in a world that's anything but.

I've been in managerial role for a while now, so I can appreciate the "other side", as a recruiter/interviewer. It's hard because you're having to make judgement calls with very limited information, so I can easily empathize.

But as a recruiter or boss, the onus is on me to suss out the data I need. Given that introverted people have always existed and will always exist, it would be ignorant and lazy of me to only pick from the crop that puts themselves in the spotlight for me. Not to mention the very obvious fact that a lot of people are very good at selling themselves, even when they have nothing to offer.

Which coworking space at you at out of curiosity? (If you're comfortable answering)

I live in Kendall and am always on the lookout for decent ones that aren't the WeWork's.

I’m in West Palm, so might be too far for you. The “a bit above” comment was relatively speaking haha. But the space itself is called 1909.

I've wondered about that place. How do you like it?

I love it; been there since before it was called 1909.

>virtue emojis on Twitter and GitHub

That's pretty unnecessarily negative/uncharitable. I know people (usually older) who are perfectly un-self-interested and unconditionally sympathetic to all people who use "virtue emojis" very innocently/sincerely on their social media. All you have is the word of my anecdote, but these individuals are not engaging in self-promotion (unless one expansively defines it to include all unprovoked expressions of thought/opinion). These same people wouldn't be caught dead wearing flashy, "fashionable" clothing, or otherwise self-promoting in the spirit of competition.

Then this is not the kind of person i would enjoy hanging around. In my social circles, when you show of any kind of virtue without delivering, you are mocked, and in my opinion, rightfully so.

What is a virtue emoji?

A flag or emoji representing the current thing[1]. Varies from month to month.

[1] https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-support-the-current-thing

What are examples of virtue emojis?

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