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Comment by alar44 | Hacker News Reader

Shut down at 830? Yeah not gonna work for me. Or anyone with a job.

> Or anyone with a job

If you are young and grinding to climb up the corporate ladder or in an executive position at a default dead startup and happy doing it then your comment makes sense to me.

If you're not either of those things then your comment is extreme and sounds like you'd be happy in a 996 company. If software was 996 everywhere I would find a different career as I enjoy the rest of life too much.

I don’t think gp means that they are happy to work until that late, I think they mean that they regularly use their phone for non work communication that late because they spend their day at work.

So you go to work, come home, and got to bed? I work until 6 and then do other things with my life.

That leaves 2h30 between you finishing work and putting the phone down. It’s not even like @jamwt said “go to bed at 8:30” or even “no screens at all after 8:30”, just put the phone away and chill.

8:30's about when dinner's been cooked, eaten, the kids are in bed, and about 50% of the day's mess has been cleaned up (you'll get the 250% of a day's mess that remains, after 5 week days, cleaned up on the weekend—at least, that's the lie you tell yourself)

I get almost no personal screen time—or other personal time, for that matter—before that (aside from time I steal to post on HN, like everyone else)

I've worked in tech since 2008 and only for 2 of those years have I had to be "on call" past 6pm. ymmv.

I don't mean on call. I mean, work til 6, eat dinner, check the mail. Do a couple chores and bam, it's 8:00. Shutting down at 8:30 will work if you have no friends or family I suppose.

I have friends AND family and I manage it. If you wake up at 6 AM and go to bed at 10 PM, work 9 AM to 6 PM, and shut down all your screens and stuff at 8:30 PM, that gives you 8 hours of sleep a night, an hour to work out in the morning, 2 hours to eat breakfast and do morning stuff before work, 2.5 hours every evening for dinner, chores, screen relax time, as well as communication with friends and family, and then another 1.5 hours for low-stimulation home family time and reading. Sounds perfectly fine for a weekday.

Giving a very generous 1 hour for every meal and daily 1-hour workout, that still gets you 12.5 hours of non-working screen time for your work week, and 7.5 hours of lower-stimulation entertainment. And then you have your weekends for weekend stuff. What does your schedule look like where this is a serious problem?

Being constantly socially online with people you don't live with is honestly overrated. Cutting out social media is a good first step, and strengthened my most important social connections, and completely eliminated ones that I hadn't realized were empty and meaningless (do you really need to be "friends" with everybody you knew from high school?)

If you work until 6 then you presumably don't start until 9:30-10, so you can probably sleep until 7:30 or 8 in the morning. So do the same routine and move it back an hour or so.

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