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I think you're right.

I found the car for less than 6 thousand USD in Alibaba.

Someone else on this thread claims that Argentina is selling it for 9.5 thousand USD.

The title claims it's a 100% Argentine car.

And yet the article states the following:

>In 2018 Coradir’s CEO and his team decided to develop a battery bank platform, motor train and all the associated electronics so that any national car manufacturer could develop its own version of TITO, but the project fell flat.

>“Then, we realized we already had a complete car and asked ourselves, ‘what if we make it available to the public?’ At that moment the 100% electric TITO was born,”

This is awful everything.

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I don't get what your point about the quote is. What is contradictory about the article and the claim?

If Coradir did "develop a battery bank platform, motor train and all the associated electronics" then why are they reselling a Chinese design? Are the Chinese manufacturers using the Coradir-developed battery bank platform, motor train, and electronics?

Has anyone actually verified it's the same car? They only mildly resemble eachother IMO.

That said, Coradir's site seems to be a lot of rebranded gadgets so it wouldn't surprise me, but I haven't seen any actual proof of this, just speculation based on cars looking similar.

https://ar.motor1.com/news/480616/tito-probo-en-potrero-de-l...

> The only official image published by Coradir Automotores shows the Tito with the original Today Sunshine M1 grille

Looks like they're importing them but with their own styling changes, and originally posted an unmodified Sunshine M1 on their website.

This is absolutely standard business practice here, as I explained in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31829966.

The headline claims that the Tito is a 100% Argentine car.

The article states that they failed to develop their own car platform so they decided to sell the car that they already had.

The car that they already had appears to be a Chinese car that you can buy online.

Thus, the claim that the TITO is a 100% Argentine car appears to be a lie.

1-2 are facts, sure. What proof is there that the TITO actually is a Chinese car? Your statements hinge on that assumption.

My eyes can tell they're the same.

If you look at the cars without bias you'll agree.

https://argentinareports.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/60dd...

https://argentinareports.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/tito...

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/MINI-Smart-Electric-C...

The cars are exactly alike in size, shape, proportion, body, etc., except for some minor cosmetic changes in the front grill.

What "bias"? I'm not Argentinian, I couldn't care less if they made it or not.

There's clear differences even in the photos you provided. Obviously the front grill, but the lights are also a different shape, with the TITO more angular. The door frame is different, it looks like the TITO has a larger piece of chrome on the part you open. I'm sure there's other differences there if I were to look at different angles of the TITO.

Maybe Sunshine took TITO's design, maybe they're both based on some reference design made by some other company. They both clearly are supposed to be a squished MINI Cooper. Regardless of what happened, "my eyes" are not proof of it.

So, I ask again, what proof do you have that it is the case that TITO took Sunshine's design and/or is just a rebadged car?

Check out https://www.chinacarforums.com/threads/mini-evs-in-china.218...

"Design and bodywork: The design was taken from an existing Chinese product. The vehicle parts would be imported from China and the assembly would be done in San Luis. For later, they promise to produce the body parts in kevlar and aluminum material, with the support of a Munro (Buenos Aires) autopartist"

At this point I have to assume that you're not arguing in good faith but for the sake of being argumentative. Have a good day.

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