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Why do you keep saying "competitors"? Do you really think every V detractor in this thread has their own pocket language they want to shill for at V's expense?

I don't think that's the case. I believe most people just don't like seeing others spreading lies and like when they are refuted.

I think they are using that term because of some very early experiences that the community faced from a clear perception in this regard. It was so sad to see these other communities descend to such slimy depths. <sigh>

No, the reason is that Zig doesn't make wild claims about what it can do and then fail to back them up.

Based on your posts in this thread, you seem to have a very paranoid outlook, where everyone is out to get V for no rational reason at all, and implying they have sinister motives. But: anyone can just run the code examples in the article and see for themselves that V is just not living up to its promises. It's just more confirmation that the V people are a little cult that can't take any criticism at all.

Good. I think in the beginning it had quite a wild/ambitious vision.

Oh please, V is a meme or marketing scam not a competitor to any other PL. I'm glad someone calls V's unfounded claims from time to time so maybe less people will waste time and money on V.

What's your deal, is V your language or something?

Actually, there are a number of programming languages that I like. And I use other languages more than V, though I do think it does show a lot of promise and possibilities. But more than favoring any language, something I don't like is bullying, unfairness, or underhandedness. If I see something that appears odd or unfair, I can at times feel obliged to call it out.

Do you think it is unfair to point out the lies?

The link to Xe's review may appear unfair. It doesn't have much relevant technical info now.

It may be good to point out that they lied 3 years ago, but that's not very constructive either.

edit: i changed my mind, repeatedly pointing out past mistakes and bullying communities or companies (or scams) should be considered legit, and fair. Still not desirable for the members of the community.

Tozen may try to lessen the critics, link positive experiences or such. Attacking people may even worsen the case for them.

Some of us have some level of passion about it because we're long term supporters and donors and don't AT ALL feel like our investment has been in vain.

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