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Steve Jobs demo of NeXT's interface builder and enterprise object framework.

The IB demo has him building an interface without touching code. He goes on to demo a simple app without code. This was in 1989, I'm still waiting for Linux to get close to that.

The EOF demo has him building a CRUD app with queries and joins from IB. Again in 1990. Imagine the original rails tutorial but 15 years earlier. Still waiting on this one too.

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What’s interesting is that NeXT and Apple dropped the ball on essentially all of that stuff. IB was never as nice to use for UIKit as it originally was for AppKit. Bits of EOF made it into macOS (I think this was the origin of KVO?) but as I understand it, most of it went into WebObjects, which got ported to Java and eventually end-of-lifed.

If IB had kept up with UIKit/CoreAnimation/Autolayout — or the frameworks had made sure to make IB an integrated part of those features, I’m convinced that SwiftUI wouldn’t exist because there would have been no need.

> The IB demo has him building an interface without touching code. He goes on to demo a simple app without code. This was in 1989, I'm still waiting for Linux to get close to that.

Close to what? Building an interface without touching code? You could do it for over a decade, at least.

I think this is it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf5o5liZxnA

he shows a db interface builder at: https://youtu.be/rf5o5liZxnA?t=1387

the video on the whole is pretty mind boggling.

That's one of them. There's a few more with really dark screens floating around that go into a bit more detail.

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