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Musk talked so much about "free speech" in recent times!

This move is embarrassing.

You can't just fire people for criticism.

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You have freedom of speech just not freedom from consequences :)

Great, so getting kicked off of twitter is a consequence that people have had. This checks out.

> freedom from consequences

is such a meaningless, bloated phrase.

Only consequence of speech should never be more severe than speech.

"Freedom from consequences" is a weak argument used by supporters of autocrats, mobocracies, cancel-culturists, religious bigots wanting to punish blasphemous comments, and so on.

I am mocking the justification that leftist used censorship and deplatforming by using their own bloated phrase.

And thank God we do.

What's the different between freedom of speech with consequences and not having freedom of speech?

Yeah but what Musk means by it is freedom from consequences.

Yes, yes you can.

If you don't understand that getting fired from your job is not what the right to free speech protects you from, you may have lived in a free country your whole life.

Ok. Elaborate. Why is this important?

>You can't just fire people for criticism.

Why do you believe that?

It looks bad. You can, legally.

But after so many events of signalling support of free-speech, I think it is massively embarrassing.

(I am neither a Musk fan nor a hater)

I have never taken "free speech" to mean "in all places, all the time," so I don't see a conflict. The public sphere (irl and on the internet) is where people are advocating for free speech. A private company's internal email list does not qualify.

Twitter is also a private company. They are under no legal or moral obligation to disseminate all views.

You're right, they aren't! Which is why Musk wants to buy them and hold them to the standard of a de facto public townhall.

I don't understand why so many people have a hard time understanding this even though it has been repeated like a million times at this point. Are these people illiterate or using some kind of TSLAQ block list like in Twitter, because they're afraid of seeing any dissenting opinions?

It does though. Especially.

I'm going to go out on a limb here but I think most most people acting in good faith understand the difference between the public sphere and their place of employment with regard to free speech.

For example: if these employees had been other employees (or Musk himself) people racial slurs I think that's reason to fire them but I don't think it's reason to excise them from the public discourse.

> (I am neither a Musk fan nor a hater)

Don't give them an inch.

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