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Comment by sydthrowaway | Hacker News Reader

Please do not take HN threads into religious flamewar. This is a classic generic flamewar tangent, exactly the sort of thing the site guidelines ask you not to do here. If you'd please review them and stick to the rules, we'd appreciate it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: you've been posting unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments to other threads to. Could you please stop? We ban accounts that do this kind of thing because we're trying for a different sort of forum here.

Caste discrimination is definitely a thing. HN has had numerous articles about this.

https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Anews.ycombinator.com+... reports 2400 links, since algolia is down for maintenance.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cisco-lawsuit/california-...

is one of the bigger articles about Caste-based discrimination.

Google also cancelled a talk over this topic as well.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/02/google-...

I guess the bigger question is: is Ycombinator or any receiving VC funds in a lawsuit or otherwise scandal regarding caste-based discrimination? Since this has been discussed here before without threat of deplatforming, something must have changed.

Of course it's a thing. As you pointed out, HN has had tons of discussion about it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31600149.

That has nothing to do with the GP comment being religious flamebait and therefore against the site guidelines, which it obviously was.

I understand the internet forum instinct to look for specialized nefarious secret reasons when a standard moderation decision gets made, but really.

> That has nothing to do with the GP comment being religious flamebait and therefore against the site guidelines, which it obviously was.

Sure, I get that the comment was based partially in religious hatred and "flamebait". However, at the core of most of those types of comments are a kernel of truth. And if anything, PG has written about understanding those essential pieces of truth... even if they are uncomfortable.

And, converting a flamebait comment with a kernel of truth to an actual intellectual conversation should be the height of what HN ascribes to.

> I understand the internet forum instinct to look for specialized nefarious secret reasons when a standard moderation decision gets made, but really.

Wow. What you're ascribing a conspiracy theory to is what I would call "bias". And normal news orgs put a bias like (eg: "XYZ company is our sponsor"). I'm not invoking some super secret cabal, as your "nefarious secret reasons" would have it.

And I would ask that you follow the guidelines, primarily pertaining to "dont be snarky". I know I have a penchant to doing that sometimes, but I try not to.

" Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. "

That’s called caste…

And Google/Alphabet _really_ doesn't like anyone talking about caste. Because then they'd have to acknowledge they have a problem.

Given Google is probably one of the most woke organizations, I find this hilarious.

Google, like almost every large organization, is de facto psychopathic. Its values align with "woke" values because its profits do not depend on the favorable opinions and/or work performance of racists, sexists, homophobes, transphobes, or other traditional Western bigots. Its profits do depend on the work performance of casteists, therefore Google will use every means at its disposal to preserve that profit.

If tomorrow the Google board of directors and executives found that someone had created an AI that could single-handedly replace every single other Google employee with the caveat that it absolutely hated left-handed people, Google would be posting thoughtful articles about how anyone not right-handed deserved to be rounded up and put in camps.

> Its values align with "woke" values because its profits do not depend on the favorable opinions and/or work performance of racists, sexists, homophobes, transphobes, or other traditional Western bigots.

It's deeper than that. There are genuine economic incentives for corporations to align themselves with progressive values. Racist hiring schemes artificially restrict the labor pool, and would deny them access to many of the best workers. Furthermore, having a diverse workforce reduces the risk of unionization. Amazon specifically is known to track low ethnic and racial diversity as a unionization risk; the other big companies probably do similar. The most obnoxious aspects of corporate "wokeness", the anti-racist training and similar "get lectured by HR" programs, likely serve to decrease the risk of unionization by keeping employees nervous and on their toes around each other. A workplace where everybody is walking on eggshells, treating their coworkers like potential landmines, is not exactly fertile ground for labor organization.

No:

-ism

a distinctive doctrine, cause, or theory

Must be ultra secret, do you need to be outside India to know about it?

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