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I appreciate the intent, and I understand that many people will do the wrong thing so this was probably an attempt to get such folks to actually read and adhere to the TOS, but the obnoxious consent dialog with a mandatory countdown turned me off. It’s probably not effective, either.

On desktop, maybe I’d open dev tools and remove it. On mobile, I won’t be bothered. I hate that this is what the web has become and I choose to simply miss out on websites that behave this way.

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Weird, I read through the text because I care about how I’m allowed to use the things people are giving me – and by the time I got to the Accept button, it was enabled.

I guess the creator added that specifically for the YouTubers and TikTokers who failed to credit the site: https://twitter.com/fifteenai/status/1522289980420337666

Same here. And I figured if a hobby project had such a disclaimer it would be important and so I was interested to read what the rules were. But how spoiled and precious are we all today when we can’t even read a few paragraphs and accept some terms to be able to try something cool for free!

it kind of sucks, not accurate or convincing. if they spent less time making the disclaimer and more on the product… Reminds me of the 90s when everyone had a secret weapon IP in the making, until open source showed by example how futile and silly that approach was. You want people to use your work, because then they need you.

After reading the replies of the creator here on the effort that they have put into the project, would you still stand by this opinion?

Well, lets not confuse well intentions and hard circumstances with bad product and poor execution. My criticism is of what I experienced as a user, and it really doesn’t matter what the hacker news community or myself thinks, what the OP cares about is the user experience of a larger group. If you burn the user at the door it sets the tone of the experience and further, again, the product wasn’t impressive and the IP not worth defending. I mean where is this even going? If you train on actors voices they will come at you with an army of lawyers. Spongebob squarepants imitations aren’t going to pay the rent. There’s no game plan here

I prefer to know what it is I'm being given before I decide whether its worth it to figure out how I'm allowed to use it. To each their own.

To use 15.ai without accepting the TOS just paste this in the console

    document.querySelector('.vm--modal').remove();document.querySelector('.vm--container').remove();

Or add it to some default script that is applied to all pages, that way when you visit 15.ai you never even see the TOS box in the first place.

It seems a bit overkill to do this instead of just waiting 10 seconds to click on the little green button, but I suppose this is a viable alternative.

The main difference is you get to use the service without actually agreeing to any TOS.

But also, 10 seconds is extremely annoying.

I'm afraid it's a necessity after all the times that my work has been appropriated by companies and TikTokers/YouTubers. Yes, I am fully aware that most people will not read it. But at least I tried.

(I mean, what I was saying is by getting rid of the box in the DOM, you avoid the issue of the TOS altogether since you "walk around it" instead of agreeing to it.)

Aren't we all appropriating the work of Newton, Maxwell, Einstein, and others? It's not like Maxwell's equations are copyrighted.

You're entitled to your opinions, but as a PhD myself I'd rather my research get used by people than end up in a copyright junkyard of things people can't use.

I'd argue that there is a rather massive difference between invoking Maxwell's equations to invent GPS and literally plagiarizing my work by using it to broker partnerships with celebrities and subsequently selling my work as NFTs. (Yes, this really happened - I'm not making this up.)

I just want you to know that it was absolutely hilarious to hear (the first half of) this read in the voice of SpongeBob SquarePants.

I closed the page at the 15 second count down.

couldn’t agree more, the web has become user hostile and I will boycott sites and their services and products if they disrespect me by wasting my time try to trick me into agreeing to a list of smallprint demands

Oh yep. I'll be reading an article and a damn popup appears midway through a sentence. I usually just quit the website at that point. I hope their bounce detectors pick up on it.

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