HN is turning more like Twitch chat, I feel like. People just throw-out the most ridiculous opinions without any effort.

At least Twitch chat has more fun memes.

We invaded germany in 1940s and we've been occupying it ever since. You know like how the soviet union invaded germany in the 1940s. But then they eventually left. We didn't. We are still there. Hopefully germany will become a free nation one day. We talk so much freedom and sovereignty and yet we deprive so many of freedom and sovereignty.

> they are claims devoid of proof, references or even arguments.

It's basic history. Do you need references for ww2 and the occupation of germany? You are only responding like this because it's the obvious truth which you don't want to confront.

Imagine if china or russia was occupying germany and forced them to subsidize chinese or russian companies.