So even if this is true, it probably will only have a negligible effect on the total operating cost for an EV.
And you need to be “bought a house” rich to be able to charge at home. I haven’t seen the newest developments, but any apartment block 4-5 years or older doesn’t have power in the garage for individual spaces.
EVs are a real luxury good still.
Looking forward to our first e car, which will be delivered in august.
recently I've reasoned here about the impossibility to recharge EVs used as ICEs replacement, stating that such revolution it's doable only by a minority of the people, wealthy enough to have a home, a p.v. system or something else local to produce electricity and WFH so using cars not every day to been able to recharge, for others the sole option will be living in social housing depending on public transports etc the slave-life depicted years ago by the WEF i.e. https://www.forbes.com/sites/worldeconomicforum/2016/11/10/s... or already there in China in various part of the country.
Such reasoning ALWAYS have got some quick upvotes than get quickly downvoted, but ANYTIME such discussion appears, with less details, with less projection to the whole society same conclusion spot here and there.
I'm curious if it's a kind of silent propaganda to erase critics or really genuine actions by individuals who dream so much that they refuse to be told "hey, that's a dream" but being intelligent being without completely erasing the dream they spot here and there same conclusion without connecting dots to remain asleep...
More in-topic: IF we REALLY want a new deal where renewables can at least cover most domestic usages (because there is NO HOPE for industrial ones, beside nuclear and isolated cases with mountain hydro, not on scale for mere orography reasons) we need to de-urbanize: cities can't evolve, we can't cover them with enough p.v., eolic etc achieving good enough results. Surely we can start building new cities, but for where they will be built our needs will likely be different wasting a hyper-giant and nightmarish effort. So to say China have done that, and failed. The sole sustainable model I see is few on-purpose "hubs" (schooling/academia/research, industries by sectors, military, ...) and vast Rivieras for the rest, not too low in density, not too high, with a distributed economy where all eligible jobs are done from home and most others would be in a short distant range. Such also monster evolution probably need much initial works, the colonial way, witch means young slaves oppressed for the sake of others, than making them die, a new world for who remain IF that's work, IF who remain is still able to evolve etc so big IFs beside any moral consideration that for a whole society is a desperate and probably crazy and fatal move, not much different than classic nazism vision.
I hope a day, at least in a restricted cohort like HN, some SERIOUS debates will arrive on such topics instead of just partisans comment on one side and another religiously divided...
I'd 100% drive an EV if A) I could afford it (or want to spend that sort of money) B) I could charge it. Neither of those things are true.
Such issues are not there YET, because numbers of EVs around are not that much and generally who bought them have garages, perhaps p.v. or something else to recharge at least partially/sometimes them etc. But it's easy to guess on scale.
Also is easy to finds admissions and opinion on that very topic like https://www.motorious.com/articles/features-3/uk-eliminating... or https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3vny5/glorified-electric-go... and so on or essentially "hem, yup, we can't produce EVs for anyone so only few wealthy will get them, others will get just some public transport, and most who anyway get EVs probably get crap at a high price but that's is we can't do better"...
Every time I observe this I see reactions against BUT not data/reasoning/proof of the contrary. Personally I plan to buy an EV IF I found one at a decent enough price, since I have p.v. at home and WFH I can mostly recharge it, that just because I'll imaging in a very near future issues in finding diesel/gas and I'd like to have a backup. But I can't really see EVs on scale while all advertisement state the contrary.
Even in the UK many terraced and semi detached houses don’t have parking especially in cities and dense suburban areas.
Then you have those who live in apartments.
You have a very skewed view of how most people live.
Pretty much everyone I personally know with an EV doesn’t charge at home because they can’t.
They either charge overnight using an on street charger or they charge the same way people fuel up their cars and that is going one a week to a fast charger.
Over the year I've owned my Model Y, it's driven 11k miles (including three 1000+ mile road trips) and per TelsaMate[1] 70% of its charging has been on my home electricity service.
[1] One of the hidden gems of owning these vehicles is the amazing community of analytic software you get to play with.
I live in Finland. No issue with charging next to my apartment block.
Before I lived 4 years in Netherlands. Also, zero issues. Plenty of people charging cars parked next to road side.
If apartment dwellers that park on the street had access to these slow chargers, for example, using power from street light circuits, they could handle 90% of their charging needs, using fast chargers for days where they drove an unusually long ways.
In Europe, or other 240V places, the slow charger is about twice as fast, so the situations where a fast charger is needed are even less.
Part of it is that Tesla levies a fee for leaving the car plugged in after it charges, so we can't go too far.