Hard to watch. Reminder me of the torturing at Guantánamo Bay detention camp.
But the top photo of prisoner with hood and handcuffs and brutish looking military/security look very similar to some of the gross photos we saw of abuse at gitmo.
Might be me putting too much emotion onto it but the guard with the bat looks like a smirk, like how the criminals at gitmo enjoyed abusing and taking those photos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisone...
Ugh. The pictures in that article are horrendous. The "patriots" will say (and in fact do say -- see the linked article about Lyndie England) that the real crime is not the acts committed but making them public. The same is true of course in China with Tiananmen Square or in Russia with the current military operation.
It's funny how self-declared patriots seem to specialize in making the rest of the world hate and revile their country.
the photos from gitmo aren't nearly as bad, probably because there aren't many. Most I've seen are just those through the fence photos, again looks too similar to China's concentration camps.
Guantanamo Bay is completely horrible and should never have happened, but it wasn’t genocide.
Guantanamo is indeed different, because it was only used for people to extract information from - vast majority of “war against terrorism” victims have been simply killed instead.
1. I'm confused. Your original request was, "Can you point me to the documents describing systemic torture in those 'camps'?" Clearly the BBC article outlines fairly substantial evidence of systemic torture in Chinese-run prison camps in Xinjiang. Would you not agree?
2. It's possible for one to criticize the human rights abuses in American prisons--which absolutely exist, I agree--while simultaneously criticizing the human rights abuses in Chinese prisons. If we must make a comparison of scale, the Chinese ones seem far, far worse, of course. But I don't think we need make a comparison; this thread was about Chinese prison camps, and you asked for evidence of systemic torture (which I provided); that you then choose to bring up "similar" behavior in western countries is...strange.
It's almost like you are trying to change the subject, repeatedly and unsuccessfully.
Your profile says, “Hates when people get killed, especially for religion and oil”, yet you seem to be completely contradictory in that regards throughout this thread.
>The only crimes the millions of Uyghurs committed are being of a certain race and practicing a certain religion.
And the vast majority of them are fine. It’s not like Iraquis killed by US troops simply for “being a certain race and practicing a certain religion”.
having systemically rogue prison guards (say because they never really get punished and everybody aware about it, and frequently even with tacit approval) is a form of systemic torture. Have been this way in USSR/Russia for example.