Unlike the article we are all in the comment section of right?
and a quote:
" Zenz’ academic qualifications, much touted, don’t stand up to much scrutiny. His h-index is 12, about a quarter of the 40 that a ‘good’ academic should have, especially a mid-career 47-year old. His roles are all with anti-China think tanks, not academic positions. He’s in a bubble of anti-Communism and anti-China funding and thinking, not in academia. "
And I recall a whole google doc on Adrian Zenz's research somewhere on reddit too.
And to add in a more geopolitical element, China is the rising power to western hegemony, and this is part of the west's image smearing techniques - pick an story that pushes a narrative you want against an adversary, and don't verify it thoroughly. Points like 'the US has bombed muslim countries for a decade and now they're suddenly like 'oh we love muslims'' still stand strong. Be aware of that.
That will however never happen because it's clearly obvious there is something to hide.
So far all the CCP has done is allow some journalists to go to specific areas, are followed and controlled and forced to abide by rules and procedures designed to ensure that the CCP sets the narrative. Influencers are taken on tours to the same places, shown the exact same things, etc, and all this happens 100 miles away from where the re-education camps are apparently located.
So who do we believe? The guy who is waving a flag saying "guys look at whats going on" or the guy who is saying "you can't come and see here, that guy is lying, hes a liar! He has no credentials, he's western propaganda, hes fake news. There's no need to come here and see anything cos he's lying"
My guess is China/CCP doesn't have much trust in western news outlets, hence no freedom of press.
Also, you're making a lot of claims on the second guy too.
> There's no need to come here and see anything cos he's lying
China did invite muslim countries and some other western ones to xinjiang. Some western countries declined to go claiming taint.
If you expand the horizon beyond just a matter of hiding information = guilt, you'll see the US has just as much motivation and track record to blow this issue out of proportion on false grounds too, and the power to get away with it (eg. iraq). Based on that they would/should garner far less trust.
However the two situations are vastly different. The US has a history of reporting on issues that happen on their own turf. Sometimes with positive outcomes, sometimes without any outcome at all.
With China, the CCP controls the narrative 100% of the time. When any information is leaked it's stamped out and censored quickly.
For example they claim to have 100% resolved poverty. Part of what they did was hand out money to rural area's to help people. When people claimed they never recieved money, or that they were forced to sign paperwork stating they recieved the money when they hadn't, it was quickly censored and scrubbed from social media in China. So can we trust the CCP when they say they got rid of poverty?
When the BBC went to Xinjiang.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55666153
> Over a period of less than 72 hours in Xinjiang we were followed constantly and, on five separate occasions, approached by people who attempted to stop us from filming in public, sometimes violently.
> But the China Daily chooses not to mention that some of our footage was forcibly deleted and we were made to accompany the same police officer to another location so she could review the remaining pictures.
> It was also attended by two propaganda officials who were assigned to accompany us for the rest of our time in Kuqa - adding one more car to the long line that followed us wherever we went.
> Far from being fake news, our evidence, along with the post-publication propaganda designed to undermine it, is proof of a co-ordinated effort to control the narrative, extending from the shadowy minders in unmarked cars, all the way up to the national government.
So it doesn't matter if China invites anyone in, the CCP will tell us what they want us to hear. Not what's actually going on.
> However the two situations are vastly different. The US has a history of reporting on issues that happen on their own turf. Sometimes with positive outcomes, sometimes without any outcome at all.
I'm not sure what you're trying to justify on the US? My interpretation is that it seems more truthful to you at least because you have some aligned values?
This where past details really have to come in imo. Consider the times. China is a rising challenger to the current hegemony and historically they will fight on some level. And fighting is dirty. Most people align with the side that has the most shared common values, and make judgements accordingly. They have no time and energy to dive into the details. Knowing that, these entities will try to manipulate you. If you don't want to be manipulated, you just have to spend a little effort on reading up on different narratives and figure out what's relevant.
> this is part of the west's image smearing techniques
Smearing techniques aren’t solely employed by the west, as attempts to attack the author’s character in this thread can attest
They used a combination of OSINT (e.g. extracting metadata from files or cross-checking photos with satellite images), old-school journalism (= calling phone numbers or connecting with relatives of people abroad) and forensic science (by contracting the Fraunhofer Institute).
[1] https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/xinjiang-police-files-so-habe...