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The agricultural revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Do you mean that remaining primitive hunters-gatherers, as now observed in certain places near Amazon river, would be more of a success?

The grass is always greener

Thanks to chemical pesticides and industrial fertilizers.

yes according to modern media sentiment. Never once have I watched a movie that argued for the antithesis of the "Avatar" respect nature mantra. I mean even without the warmongering factories are never portrayed in a positive light unless they're Willy Wonka's.

I wouldn't figure what society you'd be happy in based on media depictions. They're selling you whatever you'll buy. They sold the Jetsons back in the day.

I think you need to rewatch/reread Willie Wonka...

why do you need to argue for the existing society that mostly everbody agrees with. That'd make a boring movie.

The media sentiment skips over the newborn deaths, starvation due to bad year of weather, families wiped by simple diseases, and all the other things we pretty much learned how to deal with.

Yes. Thousands of years of class societies haven’t been great.

But the revolution happened out of sheer necessity, not out of choice. Hunter-gatherer societies aren’t sustainable past a certain threshold of population density.

I don't support trying to turn back the clock, but modern day hunter gatherers should not be thought of as a reliable picture of past hunter-gatherers.

For one, they mostly inhabit some of the lowest quality land since the best land has been taken by industrial society. Past hunter-gatherers would have had their pick of land.

Our brains were certainly larger on an individual level, but those individuals could never surpass a few tens of thousands, spread globally, the farther the better!

We built human civilization so that we could Show HN the app that we built. Take that, hunter-gatherers.

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