A world grain shortage puts tens of millions at risk
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Now there certainly could be an issue of price and logistics costs in food insecure nations, but I'm not sure the answer is enabling Ukrainian production rather than producing more outside of Ukraine / ensuring countries don't cut off global trade in grains.
Figures from: https://downloads.usda.library.cornell.edu/usda-esmis/files/...
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/export-losses-gi....
And endless wars are also government actions.
A million dead in the US was always going to wreck havoc, not even counting the people in hospital. For all we know it would have been much worse without government action.
> And endless wars are also government actions.
That is not very helpful. Countries in the Middle East dependent on grain from Ukraine had absolutely no way of avoiding the war, and yet will bear the consequences. From their point of view, it is an uncontrollable calamity just like COVID.
Nearly 3 million people die every year with or without covid. If your claims were true, we would've been facing supply chains issues for decades already.
The supply chain issues are obviously man-made. The who, what, when, where, why and how is anyone's guess.
> Countries in the Middle East dependent on grain from Ukraine had absolutely no way of avoiding the war,
They should have diversified or had contingencies plan already. What have they been doing since the last crisis 10 years ago? Also, the middle east has some of the wealthiest oil producing countries in the world. Let them figure it out and if not, let them remove their imcompetent leaders.
> Russia also exported 11% of the world's urea, and 48% of the ammonium nitrate. Russia and Ukraine together export 28% of fertilizers made from nitrogen and phosphorous, as well as potassium, according to Morgan Stanley.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/06/a-fertilizer-shortage-worsen...
https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-17/belarus-p...
Here's some perspective on current fertilizer prices: https://blogs.worldbank.org/opendata/fertilizer-prices-expec...
And how does that happen? Be very specific and quantitative. For example, which land gets planted that isn't planted now. Or, which crop gets replaced. Where do the inputs come from and how is that paid for? (Be sure to include equipment.)
Bloomberg notwithstanding, US farmers are actually fairly technically sophisticated. They're also money driven and competent.
Futures doesn't address any of the "how do they actually do it" issues that I raised.
Given the fertilizer shortage, the US is most likely to produce 10% less.
Is it possible that all this will result in a cascade of conflicts?
Here they are saying that food prices were going to rise due to COVID - and that was before the outbreak of the war [2]
Things seem to be going from bad to worse...
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Spring#Causes
[2] https://www.ifpri.org/blog/covid-19-and-rising-global-food-p...
If (eg) Argentina Bolivia and Chile were unable to supply Lithium, how long would it take the world to ramp up to using Australian sources, and what would it do to the supply chain?
Or, if the soybean crop failed in one economy, would worldwide pig production suffer?
(albeit at a larger scale and with more products and filter-by-country)
During peak covid vaccine ramp up, special plastic bags used in vaccine production were single source. So were the lipids and the factory to encapsulate the vaccine.
We saw mask and gown shortage, oxygen shortage, needle shortage.
https://news.cornell.edu/stories/1997/08/future-water-and-en...
You'd need it to eat grass, but the article doesn't say anything about humans eating grass.
> With only grass-fed livestock, individual Americans would still get more than the recommended daily allowance (RDA) of meat and dairy protein, according to Pimentel's report, "Livestock Production: Energy Inputs and the Environment."
Michelle Obama took a stab at updating it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MyPlate) with quite a bit of wailing and gnashing of teeth from industry and right-wing groups (https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2016/03/michelle-obama...).
it seems your misunderstanding results from the phrase "we'll be set", I think you took this general phrase to mean "we'll all be able to eat grain", yes?
if so, what the term actually means is, "we will be well prepared for the future", something that being able to eat grass would hypothetically help us with, since it would theoretically open up even more food options to more people
I'm not sure why some HN discussions turn into a lesson on object permanence.
in this case, since growing 4 stomachs is obviously not a serious suggestion, the post was flippant, like,
"now we just need Mr. Fusion bionic stomachs and we'll be set [so we can burn trash, in addition to grass, in addition to grain... this bracketed part is the implied portion of the joke that usually doesn't need to be said]",
since the term "then we'll be set" is almost always used to describe the next step in improving something.
improve upon what, you may ask? your own idea! lol. the humor of the joke is that the suggestion is silly.
If you don't know the answer to either of these, you're full of shit.
The global wealthy can afford convenience and excess while the global poor can't afford basic needs. As such "it's just in the wrong place, so it's cheaper to throw away" is a desired outcome for the wealthy not a problem triggering inefficiency. It's also best to not equate food usage efficiency to general efficiency as a lot of the excess is the result of more food being cheaper than efficiently consuming less food. E.g. growing 100 apples to have 100 actually consumed apples takes a lot of effort to make happen. You have to make sure none go bad in transport, all are immediately sold at the store, and that people heavily plan out their lives around eating every apple they buy before it goes bad. It's just more efficient as a whole to make more apples even if that makes food efficiency look worse.
Carrying that forward whether or not there is a "global shortage" (taken to mean not enough produced for everyone to not go hungry) is irrelevant. People are already going hungry today so "enough that everyone can be fed" can't be the controller of why the wealthy can afford excess. The ability comes from their production and purchasing power compared to the world not the overall averages of the world.
Of course simple economics still exists and less of the good will result in a raise of price, the question of course being how much not working from decreased consumptions backwards. That raise in price is only proportional to how much is needed to lower global consumption. It's not a guarantee the wealthy will notice enough of an impact to no longer be able to afford excess. In reality the poor that were already short on food will see a bigger decrease in consumption than the wealthy due to price increases. A 10% price increase in food is only inconvenient for most in wealthy countries but in poor countries many have no choice but to consume less food as they have no more money to spend on it.
If I had to guess this shortage won't be near enough for production to be less than ideal distribution coveraging hunger. That said it'll still affect prices, just probably not enough for wealthy countries decreases in excess to have a meaningful impact on the overall supply.
https://oec.world/en/visualize/tree_map/hs92/export/rus.ukr/...
Even for those who don't have celiac/gluten intolerance, gluten is high in lectins, and the molecule size is such that it can really cause damage to a lot of tissue. Wheat and dairy are extremely rough on the body and as time has gone on we've basically mutated to tolerate it.
Sorghum is a gluten free crop that's hardy and grows with less water, in addition to having a favorable nutrient profile full of antioxidants. Getting more antioxidants in the diet can really be the tipping point for those who have a genetic predisposition to autoimmune and other disorders and that's why things have gotten so bad under the crappy western diet.
Sorry if I'm just being dense here but I really don't understand why "grain shortage" or "meat shortage" are thrown around in the media as being life and death situations. There are surely grains that are more heat tolerant and we can further cultivate and select for types of healthier grains that are instead of trying to make wheat happen because "mm bread/beer". I don't eat either of those things and I suspect that communities who suffered a shortage of either of those things would also find a way to make do, potentially to their benefit by integrating more diverse foods.
I guess if at the end of the day climate change is such that nothing can grow we're screwed but then why is this article so focused on wheat in particular? If a certain crop or export just isn't making sense sustainability wise this ends up just looking like the old "buuuttt the coal miners will lose their jobs" type story.
It is quite a big deal.
Here is the reality, not only the grains but the inputs like fertilizers etc are sky-rocketing. Every body wants to piss of Fossil Fuels with out even understanding how foundational they are to Modern Civilization (I welcome the downvotes but I will not stop advocating).
Say, with me, N P K - Nitrogen Phosphorous Pottasium. Belarus is a major Potash supplier, Natural gas is important for Fertilizer production etc. These inputs are now expensive.
But the policy genius, LOVE Price Controls, so what prices do these guys love controlling, they target staples .. grains, rice etc.
Now if you are farmer, who has to invest more money given the increased cost of fertilizers etc. and the government will come and take away the grain below market rate -- are you going to play the game? That is the game in much of the developing world.. and to some extend even developed world.
So your AWS style solution of spinning another EC2 instance for Food does not work in the real world.
Everyone shits on fossil fuels with no idea how crucial they are. No fossil fuels. No modern society. Turn it off and death will follow.
Biofuel production puts a spanner in things because previously we were swapping some form of consumable calories for another form of consumable calorie. But now you've got fuel production competing with food production, and their prices will begin to compete similarly. That inevitably leads to either cheaper fuel (spoiler: still not great for emissions) or significantly more expensive staple foods.
So any kind of squeeze on fossil fuel pricing leads to a down-stream increase on food pricing, one greater than just the energy use for production/transportation.
First, that rate is below what the market rate would without government farm supports. Second, the government doesn't confiscate grain. At least not in western countries.
They rotate in other crops for soil balance but YMMV in terms of wheat profits.
https://liberalarts.tamu.edu/blog/2021/11/03/farm-subsidies-...
This is not a "just spin up more AWS instances" kind of thing.
That's very difficult to say, actually; the Moskova was sunk with them after all, but the bigger issue is the abhorrent and indiscriminate shelling of civilian populations by the Russians. Fields with farmers and homes and hospitals with civilians are not of military importance. And yet, Russia keeps shooting them.
The truth is Putin's Kremlin is to blame for this wide-spread shortage and upcoming famine in many regions of the World, the West should just take the funds they seized as seed money to grow wheat in Africa this season even if it's a loss to offset this massive lost in cultivation in Ukraine.
For what it's worth, planting is still taking place [0], it's just being disrupted and will not be as large of a grow as it was prior to the invasion, so the yields will be reduced. I have it on good authority that in Lviv Oblast, specifically in Trasncarpathia things are still going into the ground as planned since Spring.
The transportation aspect is a critical issue, too, but one would like to think that as Russia is being pushed back to the border that the center and West will be able to transport to Poland/Romania to enter EU markets by the time harvest occurs in the Fall.
The main issue is that Russia keeps attacking civilian targets as well as Military ones, the recent bombing in Lviv also struck and damaged the trains [0].
Again, the sanctions on Russian oil need to be swift and deceive if this is going to stop anytime soon, they are losing nearly $1 billion per day of the illegal war in Ukraine. This only possible because of the few EU nations holding out on a total withdraw from Russian energy. I get the implications are dire, but this is the reality of countries like Germany and Italy building their entire economies around Russian energy, but this is what will shift the West to renewables more than anything else in my lifetime. So, short term pain but long term thinking needs to be put into place.
Summer is here, and it's already clear to me that it's no different than what we've had since COVID started the numbers look remarkably the same and the recession is showing.
I just hope that we make progress in this area and we can justify the last 3 years by making a massive leap towards renewable energy being at the core of energy useage.
Ukrainian grain exports used to be tens of millions of tonnes per year. That's something like a million semitrucks or a million railway cars. You can't build that kind of capacity in a few months, especially not in the middle of an all-out war.
As long as Russia can operate submarines in the Black Sea, it can blockade Ukrainian ports. No foreign cargo ship will approach the ports, and no foreign insurer will insure such ships.
Ukraine also depended on Russian energy. If Europe wants to phase out Russian energy imports, it can't supply enough fuel to Ukraine. Meanwhile, Ukraine has better uses for the fuel it can get than exporting low-value bulk goods. Like keeping its military operational, which also needs the trucks that could export grain.
Ukraine uses the Soviet 1520 mm rail gauge, while its western neighbors use the 1435 mm gauge. That creates a huge bottleneck for rail transport. Not to mention that Russia has been targeting Ukrainian railway infrastructure.
There are not that many major roads from Ukraine to the west, and some of them are unusable. The border between Moldova and Ukraine is largely controlled by Russian-backed separatists, while Russia has been bombing the bridges on the only road south of Moldova repeatedly.
I agree, but, as a person who has a background in supply chain, it's entirely moot if their is no yield to transport; I think what's significant here, is that occupation poses the largest threat.
According to western media.
> The truth is Putin's Kremlin is to blame for this wide-spread shortage
Yeah that would be easy, however it's not as cut and dry (it rarely is). You could as easily blame Zelenskyy for killing thousands of east Ukrainians prior. And then their is the coup d'état in 2014 as well and the constant provocations of the NATO in general. So I am not so sure that Putin's Kremlin alone is to blame.
Wow, that's a new level of denial. Take a look, this happened yesterday [0].
This is a "culture hall", pretty far away from the front lines, where kids used to learn to play music. More than ten injured including children.
But the revolution happened out of sheer necessity, not out of choice. Hunter-gatherer societies aren’t sustainable past a certain threshold of population density.
For one, they mostly inhabit some of the lowest quality land since the best land has been taken by industrial society. Past hunter-gatherers would have had their pick of land.