I want to like this, but I feel like 32GB of RAM is minimum if I were buying a new laptop. I’ve been heavily eyeing the Framework but I’d prefer AMD. This had AMD but is limited to 16GB of RAM… lots of unnecessary tradeoffs being made here.
Of course that's not my normal mode of operation (well, except for the 200 tabs part), but the point is, I'm finally not limited by memory. I don't have to think about it now. I don't find myself always running "top" or "free -h" to try and figure out "OK, do I need to kill some stuff now?" and if so, "what should I kill?" Nope. Any and everything I do in my routine workflow fits in the scope of the hardware. It's incredibly liberating.
"Oh," the critics will say, "RAM that isn't used is wasted." To which I say "so fucking what? It's my RAM and I'll damn well waste it if I want."
However, those consuming more resources than the share the planet has to offer for everyone are just denying others an equally good life. Either now or in a future generation. https://www.overshootday.org/
Rather useless growth of computer performance might not be the worst problem. But it's easy to address. I can tell you that working with an old 2 GB computer is no problem at all for many tasks with just a bit of thinking. (For sure there are tasks that require more memory. I also use such machines, but not all the time.)
And of course you can just order a replacement mainboard for your already purchased Framework laptop, which is awesome.
It kinda reminds me of how some Thinkpad addicts went to crazy lengths to upgrade their 10 year old thinkpads with modern parts lol. Except this time it's official and supported.
That's awesome!
I think this HP is kinda tacky. I don't need a trackpoint and I don't want a keyboard offset to the side like that.
So I’ll say that expecting 32GB RAM in a $1K laptop is a little too unrealistic.
I was using it to highlight the unreasonable-ness, IMHO of course, of the above request.
I think a better comparison would be Dell or Lenovo who do the same thing HP does, and they too charge a lot for what are essentially OEM versions of Samsung and Hynix memory anyone can get.
More importantly, if companies keep on releasing Linux laptops and only laptops we may really never see the Year of the Linux desktop :(
Edit: I meant, you can upgrade it when speccing the laptop. The RAM is probably soldered.
So if you’re stuck at 16GB, that’s unacceptable for a developer laptop in 2022, I don’t care what logo is on the back. 32GB is the only acceptable starting point.
I've been sitting at 27 GB for the past two days with PyCharm open as well.
16gb is not enough anymore for even such a modest workload.
On MacOS (switched to 2021 MBP 14) basically identical setup is sitting on ~29GB.
I think my example is extremely average and common.
Run a C++ IDE on a medium-large codebase and you can very quickly run out of RAM.