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I wondered. It looked very Windowsy, and I'd guessed the Linux support was non-existent. Sounds like I'm going to stay away then.

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The article says:

    We continue to focus on solid Linux support, and we’re happy to share that 
    Fedora 36 works fantastically well out of the box, with full hardware
    functionality including WiFi and fingerprint reader support. Ubuntu 22.04
    also works great after applying a couple of workarounds, and we’re working
    to eliminate that need. We also studied and carefully optimized the standby
    power draw of the system in Linux. You can check compatibility with popular
    distros as we continue to test on our Linux page 322 or in the Framework 
    Community 39. [0], [1]

There's semi-official Linux support it sounds like!

[0] https://frame.work/linux [1] https://community.frame.work/

"semi-official" is pretty far away from full support.

But just as far away from no official support, which is where we stand with most hardware that I'm interested in.

I don't get why you're not interested in hardware that fully supports Linux, and which comes with great support, but you do you I guess.

because this hardware is uniquely repairable and upgradable and it has better linux support than most of the industry. Unless you just want another rebranded clevo laptop this is very good.

Framework is not that different from System76 afaict. Except Framework has no CoreBoot and no Linux support.

First, "no linux support" is disingenuous. Second, with a Framework you can replace a USB-c port with a 1TB expansion card, or with an Ethernet port, or whatever is in stock. Those who bought the first model can now upgrade to a next-gen processor and/or reinforced lid, without throwing the whole laptop away. While System76 has surprisingly lower prices than I expected, it does not appear to have similar features--you still have to replace the entire system whenever your Pangolin becomes obsolete in 3 years. Framework was always more about sustainability. They didn't anticipate the demand for Linux/FOSS stuff, but they're adjusting for that. Hopefully some future motherboard will have Coreboot, and I can buy that motherboard and pop it in my laptop.

> First, "no linux support" is disingenuous

Nope. If I can't file a ticket or call and get an issue fixed, that's not support.

> with a Framework you can replace a USB-c port with a 1TB expansion card, or with an Ethernet port, or whatever is in stock. Those who bought the first model can now upgrade to a next-gen processor and/or reinforced lid, without throwing the whole laptop away.

Ah, that _is_ a great difference then.

Hopefully they get their Linux act together.

I did say most.

Next time I buy a laptop, it will be System76 or Framework, depending on which offering I like better at the time.

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