>What? You lose nothing but a perception of privacy in the theoretical case of a backdoor to encryption, we have rule of law ffs.

We lost that perception years ago when Snowden revealed it was all backdoored anyway. I do not know what rule of law you are referring to.

>If we ban cars tomorrow society grinds to a halt, there will be mass starvation. If we ban e2e encryption in consumer products tomorrow nothing changes.

I do not think anyone serious is referring to banning all cars period. The discussion is more like creating more spaces where large vehicles are de prioritized or not allowed and walking and bicycling are prioritized such that there is greatly reduced risk of being run over. Also included are probably returning cars to smaller sizes and to reduce the severity of injuries and increased visibility.

Banning e2e does change something. Maybe not visibly, and not exactly tomorrow, but it certainly enables and progresses the mission of those wanting to limit civil rights.