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Sorry but Render at their lunch entirely. Try it. https://render.com/docs/deploy-rails

Want simple? Use a build.sh

Want a bit complexity? Use a Dockerfile.

Their docs are really copy paste for 99.9% applications. Whoever in that company made the decision to invest in docs was right on the money. It made switching to them a much easier choice. https://render.com

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I'm moving a small amount of stuff ($250/mo spend) off Heroku this weekend. It's either Render or Fly, and I guess I'm going to start with Render.

Here's where I'm starting: https://render.com/docs/migrate-from-heroku

Update: Migrating the simplest possible Rails app from free-tier to free-tier didn't work on Render (deploys fail, no logs to be found), so I'm bailing out to try Fly.

To any render people reading this, it appears to have been an issue with the migration plugin and the Heroku-18 stack. Manually deploying the app worked fine.

Thanks for the heads up and good to hear you were able to deploy the app manually. We might deprecate the migrator because it's hard to keep up with all the Heroku stack and buildpack configs and because manual migrations are relatively straightforward.

Completely understandable. I’ve been configuring stuff with Render all morning and I’m really starting to like this service.

Is there a way to assign an existing Env Group when manually creating a new service? So far I've needed to create and then go back in and assign.

Thanks! Re: Env Groups, not yet, but we are overhauling the new service flow and will definitely incorporate adding env groups.

Update for fairness: Fly.io failed even quicker.

Creating postgres cluster redacted-db in organization redacted Launching...⣻ Error failed creating the Postgres cluster redacted-db: Timeout on CreatePostgresCluster.app

Every attempt fails. There's no way I can run this for $250/mo on AWS. Now I have to pretend I'm a sysadmin and use Hetzner.

> Whoever in that company made the decision to invest in docs was right on the money.

Also the reason Django has always been so approachable (particularly in the early days, as it is orders of magnitude more complex now) and therefore popular

Older still, IMHO also why mIRC scripting was so much fun despite its shortcomings. The help file had literally everything you could want to learn about the language and it almost begged to be read. It's how I got into coding

+1, Django docs were gold standard when I last used it. Also DRF. I still miss them, 5 years later.

I hadn't heard of Render prior to this incident, but now I see it recommended in almost every related thread. Of course, Heroku's free tier had always worked well enough for my hobby apps, so I had no reason to search for alternatives. Looking forward to giving Render a try.

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