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Software engineering is no longer considered engineering these days. People mash abstractions together without even trying to understand what's beneath those abstractions. Knowing what you're actually doing seems to be a big deal in software development now.

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Engineering is trying to underestand things and learn from mistakes. SW engineering is like financial engineering: trying to get profits fast.

Anecdotally that tracks, because all of my (very good!) CS professors in undergrad were retired engineering-engineers, with only a single retired software engineer that I can recall (who taught the course focused on real-world SWE/project management)

This is why I've given up on working anywhere where venture capital is even remotely involved. I want to make the world a better place and empower people, not make rich people richer while they do nothing of value.

ha you sound as jaded as i do. ive come to learn that we will work with google (search) programmers as long as buisnesses fool themselves that outsourcing saves money.

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