Onyx violates GPL by not releasing their source code. So, I won’t buy their products.
I don't ask in jest, I just was arguing with CAT (yes the heavy equipment people) about getting ROM/sources for their Android ROM, which they've stated they won't even ship the .bin out of the company.
That's good. It would be even better to show that they are GPL non-compliant by showing their response and confirming they're not willing to comply. As you said, you're not able to, and that's fine, I'm just saying it would be even better if you could.
> I do have the time, energy, resources and motivation to share this singular fact with others so they can make their own choice about which companies they support.
That's fine.
I agree with you that Onyx is likely in violation of the GPL. That said, the way I'm used to things is; the person who alleges a crime is committed is the one that has to show evidence. Onyx doesn't have to prove they're innocent. The prosecution has to prove they're guilty.
So if we want to see Onyx punished, then we need to find someone who owns an Onyx that has asked Onyx to comply with the GPL and provide source, and showing that they refused to do so. At that point, they would immediately be non-compliant and thus susceptible to many injunctions, meaning their products could be stopped at the border. Pretty sure they'd pay attention to that.
http://bbs.onyx-international.com/t/install-linux-or-alterna...
I see the link shows a forum discussion. I guess I was looking for something more like:
So if we want to see Onyx punished, then we need to find someone who owns an Onyx that has asked Onyx to comply with the GPL and provide source, and showing that they refused to do so. At that point, they would immediately be non-compliant and thus susceptible to many injunctions, meaning their products could be stopped at the border. Pretty sure they'd pay attention to that.
It needs to be a clear formal request with proof of ownership and failure of the supplier to provide source for the GPL to be applicable.
That's in the link I provided.
Unfortunately, there isn't an automatic enforcement mechanism for cross-border GPL violations. There aren't lawyers waiting in the wings to file lawsuits on behalf of hackers who want to own their device. There isn't a framework for reporting these violations to any higher authority to advocate for us. I wish it were the case, but it's not.
There is gpl-violations.org. Has anyone tried them?
Here's one response from the company where they deflect on this issue: https://i.redd.it/0lx58maqrbb51.png
The link you were shared above on Wikipedia also has another response, where they decline to provide source: http://bbs.onyx-international.com/t/install-linux-or-alterna...
Looking at that picture, I see a comment on a forum from "Onyx-Boox.ru". Is that the same as Onyx, the company that actually ships the products worldwide? My suggestion to you guys is:
So if we want to see Onyx punished, then we need to find someone who owns an Onyx that has asked Onyx to comply with the GPL and provide source, and showing that they refused to do so. At that point, they would immediately be non-compliant and thus susceptible to many injunctions, meaning their products could be stopped at the border. Pretty sure they'd pay attention to that.
It needs to be a clear formal request with proof of ownership and failure of the supplier to provide source for the GPL to be applicable.
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/hl09g7/onyx_boox_chi...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Onyx_Boox/comments/hsn7kx/onyx_usin...
For me as a customer, I just appreciate that I can enjoy a well-made and advanced tablet that meets my needs.
For example, with Google vs Oracle on the Java API usage, Apple vs Epic Games on the App Store or even with Depp vs Amber Heard, there is no clear black-and-white.
Especially with so-called GPL violations (which seems to be a grey area), there is even accusations that Github Co-Pilot is in violation, and so, I think best thing to do is for a judge or for a legal authority to make a decision instead of cancel culture.
If you witnessed someone snatch a wallet out of a child's hand and run away, you can reasonably conclude the snatcher is a thief. You wouldn't have to wait for a legal authority to tell you what you witnessed was a crime.
It's costly to file a lawsuit.
GP isn't calling for mob anything. They just stated that they're personally boycotting the company.
Onyx makes a product that just doesn't exist elsewhere, and there aren't much better alternatives for affordable e-ink. You could always jailbreak your kindle if you somehow think that Amazon is a more ethical company.
Fairphone users do. We may be a small subset, but we're here, and I hope by showing a possible alternative supply chain we can show larger manufacturers that alternatives exist.
Posted from my Fairphone 4
There's also the problem of actually purchasing one, the fairphone website only ships to EU