Onyx BOOX Leaf: 7-inch eReader with Android 10
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I considered them for an e-note device previously but this is one of the reasons I chose to go with a different device (Supernote) instead.
That's good. It would be even better to show that they are GPL non-compliant by showing their response and confirming they're not willing to comply. As you said, you're not able to, and that's fine, I'm just saying it would be even better if you could.
> I do have the time, energy, resources and motivation to share this singular fact with others so they can make their own choice about which companies they support.
That's fine.
I agree with you that Onyx is likely in violation of the GPL. That said, the way I'm used to things is; the person who alleges a crime is committed is the one that has to show evidence. Onyx doesn't have to prove they're innocent. The prosecution has to prove they're guilty.
So if we want to see Onyx punished, then we need to find someone who owns an Onyx that has asked Onyx to comply with the GPL and provide source, and showing that they refused to do so. At that point, they would immediately be non-compliant and thus susceptible to many injunctions, meaning their products could be stopped at the border. Pretty sure they'd pay attention to that.
http://bbs.onyx-international.com/t/install-linux-or-alterna...
I see the link shows a forum discussion. I guess I was looking for something more like:
So if we want to see Onyx punished, then we need to find someone who owns an Onyx that has asked Onyx to comply with the GPL and provide source, and showing that they refused to do so. At that point, they would immediately be non-compliant and thus susceptible to many injunctions, meaning their products could be stopped at the border. Pretty sure they'd pay attention to that.
It needs to be a clear formal request with proof of ownership and failure of the supplier to provide source for the GPL to be applicable.
That's in the link I provided.
Unfortunately, there isn't an automatic enforcement mechanism for cross-border GPL violations. There aren't lawyers waiting in the wings to file lawsuits on behalf of hackers who want to own their device. There isn't a framework for reporting these violations to any higher authority to advocate for us. I wish it were the case, but it's not.
There is gpl-violations.org. Has anyone tried them?
Here's one response from the company where they deflect on this issue: https://i.redd.it/0lx58maqrbb51.png
The link you were shared above on Wikipedia also has another response, where they decline to provide source: http://bbs.onyx-international.com/t/install-linux-or-alterna...
Looking at that picture, I see a comment on a forum from "Onyx-Boox.ru". Is that the same as Onyx, the company that actually ships the products worldwide? My suggestion to you guys is:
So if we want to see Onyx punished, then we need to find someone who owns an Onyx that has asked Onyx to comply with the GPL and provide source, and showing that they refused to do so. At that point, they would immediately be non-compliant and thus susceptible to many injunctions, meaning their products could be stopped at the border. Pretty sure they'd pay attention to that.
It needs to be a clear formal request with proof of ownership and failure of the supplier to provide source for the GPL to be applicable.
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/hl09g7/onyx_boox_chi...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Onyx_Boox/comments/hsn7kx/onyx_usin...
For me as a customer, I just appreciate that I can enjoy a well-made and advanced tablet that meets my needs.
For example, with Google vs Oracle on the Java API usage, Apple vs Epic Games on the App Store or even with Depp vs Amber Heard, there is no clear black-and-white.
Especially with so-called GPL violations (which seems to be a grey area), there is even accusations that Github Co-Pilot is in violation, and so, I think best thing to do is for a judge or for a legal authority to make a decision instead of cancel culture.
If you witnessed someone snatch a wallet out of a child's hand and run away, you can reasonably conclude the snatcher is a thief. You wouldn't have to wait for a legal authority to tell you what you witnessed was a crime.
It's costly to file a lawsuit.
GP isn't calling for mob anything. They just stated that they're personally boycotting the company.
Onyx makes a product that just doesn't exist elsewhere, and there aren't much better alternatives for affordable e-ink. You could always jailbreak your kindle if you somehow think that Amazon is a more ethical company.
Fairphone users do. We may be a small subset, but we're here, and I hope by showing a possible alternative supply chain we can show larger manufacturers that alternatives exist.
Posted from my Fairphone 4
There's also the problem of actually purchasing one, the fairphone website only ships to EU
I don't ask in jest, I just was arguing with CAT (yes the heavy equipment people) about getting ROM/sources for their Android ROM, which they've stated they won't even ship the .bin out of the company.
Also, always looking for a Kindle that's less Amazon-y but still convenient.
It's probably a unicorn. Any Android device I'd probably get distracted too often and wind up frustrated with how poorly the distractions run on e-ink. I suspect that non-amazon e-readers have probably reached whispersync levels of convenience after a short learning curve but don't have any evidence to base that on.
Also, why can't Lenovo follow up the Yoga Book C930?!
Anyway, yay e-ink!
> It's probably a unicorn. Any Android device I'd probably get distracted too often and wind up frustrated with how poorly the distractions run on e-ink.
I came here to tell you that you're correct, and that this is actually a good thing. Many apps try to be all encompassing, so you don't realize you're distracted by them and waste time. Having a subpar experience gives you many chances to get your focus back to where you wanted it to be. I use my Paperwhite basically for writing and, when I'm writing, I'm writing, and that's it. Everything else looks bad, so I don't get distracted as easily and, when I do, I can quickly go back to what I wanted to do. I even set my display to black and white from time to time when I'm not home.
Wait, you use your Paperwhite for writing? How?
Although, since you asked, I do use my Paperwhite for writing, but I never released the software I glued together for that purpose.
I have a raspberry Pi set up as an access point running a little python/flask app that's controlling a X server receiving input both from the Kindle and from the regular keyboard / mouse. The flask serves the screen image, a container html, and some basic javascript to handle input (e.g. taps become clicks, long taps become right clicks) and update the image from time to time. The only tricky thing involved is that Kindle's browser is very very old, so you can´t do anything fancy or modern. The whole thing is basically a slightly modernized implementation of [1]
[1] https://hackaday.com/2015/08/21/easy-to-read-bicycle-compute...
What I have found is that for me, ebook readers are good for ebooks and ebooks only. And just normal ebooks; PDFs stink on every e-ink device (including 12" devices I've used).
So my current setup is that my 12.9" iPad Pro is my "everything" reader since it's the only no-compromise device (PDFs and comics at full size) and it has the apps I need.
I now try to use my phone more for ebooks, and took social media off it. We'll see how that goes. Now that Kindles will automatically convert ePubs to KFX via sent-to-kindle maybe I will try that again, if KFX files can actually live in your personal documents library. (You can't sync sideloaded books with the Kindle unless they're in the terrible MOBI format.)
Have you seen the ThinkBook Plus Gen 2? This is the spiritual successor to the C930, with dual LCD/eink screens.
It's much larger and heavier, really just a traditional laptop with e-ink bolted on. I'm sure the typing experience is far superior, but the Yoga Books were trying to be a totally new type of device. They were truly groundbreaking - actually introduced new possibilities for how a computer could be used.
It's a 10.3" e-ink device with a really nice touchscreen surface that supports low-latency, high-precision writing using a stylus. It's Linux-based and is highly hackable with lots of open-source projects:
https://github.com/reHackable/awesome-reMarkable
It seems to stand alone....
Yay e-ink, boo GPL violations.
Also, I live in a South-East Asian country where-in alternatives such as Remarkable, Supernote, etc.. are not available and so I appreciate Boox for making their product available here.
I have a 10 inch BOOX device and was using Instapaper. But it's buggy and fails paginated rendering a bit too often. vs. Pocket doesn't have any pagination mode.
Pagination is very nice to have especially for e-ink based devices where scroll UX isn't smooth.
If you want to save the article for offline reading with pagination, use the Print to PDF option on the Chromium-based Kiwi Browser, and select A5 paper. This is narrower and shorter than US Letter, so it'll flow better on a 7-inch screen.
Finally, if you want to convert articles to EPUB, you can do so by pasting the link into: https://dotepub.com/converter/?lang=en . On desktop, I have a FF extension that handles this, but it doesn't work on Android.
I ended up getting a Remarkable 2, and while I think the subscription model is… ehh, I’m not bound by it, and haven’t run into any scenarios where I actually need it. From a hardware perspective it has worked significantly better than the Elipsa did.
I don’t mean to take the wind out of your sails, just giving my anecdotal experience.
I also saw that a new software update made the elipse much more responsive and from a detailed review that i saw it has one of the better eink displays (high refresh rate and no banding)
Too bad they are violating FOSS licenses because their products are great. Have to make a choice there.