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China is left out because the government behavior there for the past few decades has been to deprioritize climate change entirely. Until they take some kind of initiative in leading the world in reducing CO2, European countries are likely where this innovation will be. Right now both the US and China are the problem, this has nothing to do with “white”.

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I am in Shenzhen, and have been told by friends that it is impossible to get a license for gas powered cars. There is a strong push for all cars to be electric, electric bikes are everywhere, and all buses are electric. And China is making a push towards renewables and to reduce their dependence on coal, if only to combat air pollution.

Maybe they don't talk about climate change as the reason perse, but it is wrong to say they are doing nothing, and in fact I would argue they have done much more than I see in my native country (the U.S.).

> and in fact I would argue they have done much more than I see in my native country (the U.S.).

Is it something about discussing China that triggers people to engage in whataboutism for the US? My post that you just replied to literally just roasted the US for being shitty when it comes to climate change and your defense of China is “it might be better than the US because it’s hard to get a gas car”. GTFO with that crap.

I suspect China was left out because it already had an important role in his previous novel "Red Moon".

Europeans are not the good guys in this. Yes we care about the environment but only IN OUR OWN BACKYARD. All the evil and polluting industries have been given a bag of cash to move.

> China is left out because the government behavior there for the past few decades has been to deprioritize climate change entirely.

China is left out because their per capita income is lower than romania.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nomi...

And their per capita CO2 emission is nothing. Most of china's emissions are to provide manufacturing goods to europe.

> European countries are likely where this innovation will be.

Europe isn't at the forefront of anything anymore.

> Right now both the US and China are the problem, this has nothing to do with “white”.

No. The problem is europe. And climate change is most definitely a white problem. It was a result of europe's decision to colonize, genocide and industrialize. On a per capita basis, europe at near the top of C02 emissions. You don't get to live a 1st world lifestyle without causing environmental harm.

The idea that china or india or africa has to fix a problem caused by europe is a non-starter.

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