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I love what the framework team is doing and what they stand for, and I don't want to knock them for this because it's entirely Intel's fault, but like... S3 sleep?

I have a T480 that I really like, but I'm honestly pretty scared to upgrade at this point because of the S0ix clusterfuck.

When I close the lid, the battery should last a week, not a day. The OS kernel should not be able to just wake itself up and check for updates whenever it pleases.

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We're seeing better S0ix results than before on recent kernels, like 5.15 that Ubuntu 22.04 will ship with and 5.17 on Fedora 36. There is one workaround required to get to the lowest power levels. This is currently in exploration in the community, and we'll update our guides once we've vetted it further: https://community.frame.work/t/linux-battery-life-tuning/666...

My solution was to have sleep trigger a script to set a timer that wakes the laptop up after 1 hour. The wakeup function then triggered a script that if it woke up right at 1 hour after sleep, it would then hibernate (to disk), which could stay in that state indefinitely. Note, this was some years ago, I think SystemD has something like this built in, not sure.

I've gotten S3 sleep on mine (running arch). Battery lasts for a few days, tho I haven't really tested it more as it's my daily driver right now

Why do you assume S0ix is bad?

I have a modern laptop that has both and I can measure no difference in energy usage or other behavior between them.

I have tested several of them (XPS, Lenovo, HP), none of them worked correctly. S3 laptops work way better.

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