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> having kids outside of marriage is "morally acceptable"

> divorce is acceptable

is not evidence for

> views the "traditional family" with extreme suspicion

68% of democrats find embryonic stem cell research morally acceptable...clearly they view "traditional procreation" with extreme suspicion!

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I said 'a strain in left-wing thought views the "traditional family" with extreme suspicion.' I didn't say "the majority of Democrats". The polls in question demonstrate that Democrats (though only the white ones) are proportionally more likely than Republicans to make statements in tension with a desire for 2-parent households. OP asked for hard data to back up the hypothesis that Republicans are stronger in their political commitments to 2-parent households than Democrats, and I tried to produce something like that. If you have more compelling data that points in the opposite direction, by all means post it.

> If you have more compelling data that points in the opposite direction, by all means post it

A non sequitur does not change the onus here. I don't need data to point out that what you're stating doesn't follow.

But you haven't provided any evidence. Your data point is that more Democrats than Republicans think having a child out of wedlock is morally acceptable. I think having a child out of wedlock is morally acceptable. Raising children is praiseworthy no matter what. But I absolutely do believe that children benefit from having two parents as well. The ambiguity here is central to my complaint about what Rayiner is trying to say.

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