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The main thing with Atlassian is they royally screwed over all their customers by discontinuing their most popular product and forcing everyone to cloud using really, really unsavory tactics. The only product remaining you can use without cloud had its price increased by an order of magnitude. And, they offered a discount to on-prem customers who signed up for it, and after the fact announced a price increase at least equal to the discount they were offering.

They have decided to treat their customers worse than Oracle does, with nothing but threats that you can make the pain stop if you just go with cloud. They’re an absolutely despicable company.

So after enduring all this, there’s a huge amount of schadenfreude that customers are experiencing watching them be down for so long. They absolutely deserve it.

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Never fear: these funds are being directed to critically useful tasks of an earth-shattering priority like building a wooden skyscraper.

I thought this was a joke or something but after googling it you aren't joking....

Wow...

https://architectureau.com/articles/worlds-tallest-hybrid-ti...

Hell of a bet on building more physical space with WFH and other factors making office space cheaper. Plus investing in a new building material concept. This seems like a passion project for someone high up in their food chain.

Holy... completely with a "habitat" bullshit.

> expected to cost $546 million and be completed in 2026.

> Construction is expected to create 2500 additional jobs and generate $1 billion dollars in revenue annually.

BTW, $546000 / 5y / 4000 persons = $27300 annually. But that wouldn't magically generate $1B/y out of thin air.

Ok but wooden skyscrapers are extremely cool. As a non-customer of Atlassian I'm glad my city will be getting a new landmark made of wood.

Interesting. My knee-jerk reaction was "what a decadence". Then again, it might benefit somehow, just wondering how...

A quote from the project page: "This project is not just about being green, it’s a whole systems approach to design, construction and habitation. It will demonstrate that change is possible and has many advantages for the planet, our cities and business."

Sounds vague.

What was the discontinued most popular product? Hipchat? That was pretty terrible by modern standards.

Orev may be referring to Atlassian sunsetting their Server products. You now have either Cloud or Datacenter ($$$) as your only options.

On-premise for Jira, confluence, etc.

You can't self host now, just use their cloud offerings.

You can self-host, that’s the data center versions.

Upside, it’s the same code just difference license file, and it enables clustering (plus lots of other artificially limited features)

Downside, it’s a subscription license and it’s insanely expensive.

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