> None of us are or want to be sysadmins.
It's such a huge misconception that by using a cloud provider you can avoid having "sysadmins" or don't need that kind of skills. You still need those, no matter which cloud and which service you use.
It's such a huge misconception that by using a cloud provider you can avoid having "sysadmins" or don't need that kind of skills. You still need those, no matter which cloud and which service you use.
I know how to configure firewalls, set up a (managed) load balancer, manage DNS, and similar tasks directly related to getting traffic to my app.
What I no longer have to know how to do: keep track of drive space, manage database backups, install security updates on a production server without downtime, rotate SSH keys, and a whole bunch of other tasks adjacent to the app but not actually visible to incoming traffic at all.
Those things you listed are sill sysadmin tasks in my eyes, and you are doing them, validating my point.
You still have to track storage space, either because you are paying for it and need to expand when necessary, or you have to manage costs at one point, that's not completely out of the picture. It can be easier for sure than building your own storage hardware.
You still need to keep systems up-to-date either you are using Docker so you are doing it on your "application level" or you are using Linux VMs and you need to upgrade those systems/images. Even if you are using something like Functions or Lambda, those have their own environment which you need to be aware of and they usually support specific versions of programming languages, so you need to upgrade your own stack when they don't support older versions anymore.
Yes, we still need to do some sysadmin-y tasks. But ECS handles so many of them that we actually have the time, energy, and knowledge to take care of the few that remain.
(As an aside, keeping language and OS versions up to date becomes a development task rather than an ops task when running Docker + ECS. We increment a version number in the repository and test everything, the same as we do for any library or framework that we depend on.)
It's a development task with a proper bare metal setup too.
That's not to say that you can get away with knowing _no_ sysadmin skills in these scenarios, but you don't need to have someone on staff who knows the ins and outs of Cassandra or Mongo or whatever you're using. In awful workplaces with high turnover, it's worth it for management to opt for these managed services so that when the overworked tech lead decides to rightfully bail on them, she/he doesn't leave them in the lurch. (Note: I'm not defending these workplaces, but just explaining that when they can't keep adequate in-house talent to manage their own services, it makes financial sense to outsource it, and pay the "cloud tax").
I have yet to work with a $corp that uses Linux for workstations.
Overwhelming majority uses Windows. Some use macOS.
The ocasional developer that uses linux will usually be in a VM, or if IT policies allow, WSL.
So yeah, running cloud services doesnt require sysadmin skills, unless you assume copy pasting from oficial documention "sysadmin skills".
It boils down to what kind of jobs you look for.
> So yeah, running cloud services doesnt require sysadmin skills, unless you assume copy pasting from oficial documention "sysadmin skills".
If that's the extent of how you're managing your cloud setup, then I could equally argue running bare metal servers doesn't require sysadmin skills either. When I did contracting, a large part of my income was to come in and clean up after people had relied on "copy pasting from official documentation" as a substitute for actual ops.
At some point we hope to get to the scale where it makes sense to pay a human to do that, but at this point the additional cost incurred by an ECS instance over an equivalent server is negligible.