I have obviously missed something but what is the main objection to Musk being part of Twitter's board?
"Black Tesla employees describe a culture of racism: ‘I was at my breaking point’ " https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-03-25/black-tesl...
"California sues Tesla, alleging rampant racism at factory" https://www.npr.org/2022/02/15/1080884899/california-sues-te...
"Black workers accused Tesla of racism for years. Now California is stepping in" https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/feb/18/tesla-cal...
I'm having a "The boy who cried wolf" moment right now.
https://www.insidehook.com/article/history/errol-musk-elon-f...
Looks like his fathers background is actually hard to pin down. A biographer of Musk believes his father made most of his wealth from his engineering business.
> Elon was born on June 28, 1971, to Errol and his wife Maye Musk when they were both in their 20s. This is important because the parents divorced in 1979, nine years after getting married, and it wasn’t until the mid-1980s that the emerald mine in question came into the picture.
> The family owned one of the biggest houses in Pretoria thanks to the success of Errol’s engineering business,” a business that included “large projects such as office buildings, retail complexes, residential subdivisions, and an air force base.” Elon even admitted his father is “brilliant at engineering” despite being an overall “terrible human being.”
It's a primary source, not speculation. Here's some additional context: https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musks-dad-tells-bi-abou...
Judging people by skin color, not okay, we both agree.
But judging people by their ancestors seems to be the same kind of wrongdoing to me. Both are pretty arbitrary criteria that the target has no control over.
The information that Elon 'might' have a racist upbringing is not really relevant. Whats relevant is whether self-responsible Elon is doing (directly or indirectly) harm to others based on skin color or race or anything like that.
I am sure that happened, and it is awful, and Tesla should answer for it in court and through the proper channels. But to some degree, this seems like the type of thing that (unfortunately) can happen in an environment like that. It doesn't seem like there is much indication that is a part of Tesla at a high level or happening in Elon's other companies.
(Also all 3 of those articles refer to the same lawsuit.)
I've not heard Musk being accused of being personally racist - that was more one contractor used racist language in the presence of some other contractor stuff.
California's actions seems pretty consistent with this to me: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.31...
Do I think that people leverage their positions of power in the govt to strike blows when they are offended or threatened? Absolutely.
It's not that people in the government have a vendetta against him. He's just petulant and thinks himself above the law. So, while I'm sure it's enjoyable to to knock him down a peg, he's doing it to himself allowing blatantly illegal shit to happen in his companies.
Those people are idiots though. The kid said he would turn off the bot for $50k. You think Elon bought 9% of Twitter to avoid paying $50k?
I won't go so far as to call you insane for not being able to imagine an edgy rich guy spending a lot of money for petty reasons, but I'll instead say that your refusal to even accept the idea as a possibility is a bit naive.
Musk clearly has much better other reason that make about 1000% more sense. He has been one of the biggest twitter accounts for a long time. He clearly cares about speech (whatever you may think about it) and he talks about that often in talks to governments around the world and so on. In your version that is all some elaborate front in order to take down some twitter bot?
If you think any non-insane person would spend 9 billion to ban a twitter account that just publishes public information I really don't know what to say anymore. Even if that bot was removed, anybody else could set up the same thing again.
Whatever you my think of Musk and calling 'edgy' or 'petty' or whatever, what you suggest is literally a 100% totally crazy thing to do. No human that is not insane would consider this a logic course of action.
If it was about that and he didn't want to pay the 50k publicly, there are about 1000 possible other ways that could have been achieved other becoming gigantic investor in twitter.
It is trivial to track a plane if you have its tail number and Elon only flies on a small number of jets.
And, no, by "shield himself from the consequences of his activities", I mean things like calling someone a pedophile on Twitter. He is one of the biggest Twitter drama quee s and it would be a lot easier to clean up his messes if he practically owns the company.
Additionally, a jet plane, whether private or public, does not have any rights. You cannot "doxx" an airplane. Aside from the practical benefits that ADS-B provides, the public nature of it holds everyone accountable.
> You cannot "doxx" an airplane. I think it's pretty obvious that Elon Musks plane will most likely have Elon Musk inside of it. So by doxxing the plane you're doxxing the person. Just think about the same example with a car of someone who may be receive a lot of negative attention, you can tweet out the location of their car and that may put them in harms way. The car has no rights either but revealing the information is still a safety issue. It's just that for planes the data is public because the idea of a plane identifying an individual location is not a common one since so few people own private planes. Another analogy is a bus vs a car. I think most people would be fine with a bus having live tracking and in fact many people depend on that, but for an individual car it doesn't make sense.
The content creator can just move to Facebook/Instagram or /tiktok or wherever.
Many of them state sponsored like Saudi government which targeted him after kashtogi.
He also got hacked and his dick pics were maybe compromised.
Those hacks could have accelerated his divorce too.
[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/elon-musks-twitter-i...
This is acknowledging that he also shares awesome stuff, like technical SpaceX details, and that he often engages with people in a real cool way.
The man definitely seems to float from one controversy to another and quite a few of those controversies seem to involve Twitter. Buying a big share in Twitter is kind of a ballsy thing to do. But why not? Might I suggest shorting the stock if you disagree ;-).
The pro Elon crowd here is a minority. Something I’ll never understand, being that this is an entrepreneurial forum and Elon is the worlds best entrepreneur. Jealousy perhaps?
Maybe it is jealousy, maybe it's that he's a neurotic moron who's more than happy to try and ruin the careers of little people.
How many of the great entrepreneurs of history got embarrassed after their scheme doesn't work and call their competitor a paedophile? You can recognize his skills while also recognizing that he's not a very nice man.
People like to act like his pedo tweet was some kind of crime against humanity. Let’s have a look at your twitter if you’re so indignant. People are such shameless hypocrites.
Also I assume you’re British so it’s not the same. You people have a problem with pedophiles. You actually bleep out when people say the word and censor the word when people write it. It’s like some kind of big deal over there. That’s just you bro, nobody else is like that.
You're completely in the realms of fantasy. Seriously?
Like he bought twitter because of flight bot.
Or idiotic ideas about how everything he does is some 7D galaxy brain chess to achive some dubiously defined goals.
Some people really go close to conspiricy theory mode and still get upvoted.
- Haters who can't stand people more successful than them, and who is more successful than Elon Musk? So anything he does is terrible.
- Since Trump, HN mostly supports social media censorship of opposing political ideas, and Elon Musk has expressed that he doesn't like this censorship.