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Are you an iOS / iPasOS user by chance? If you are and you continue to use these products would you mind explaining why you are staying with Apple products vs switching to Android or any other alternative that might meet your needs?

If you are not someone that owns and uses an iOS / iPadOS device then I was hoping you might explain why this is troubling you so much.

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I’m more or less tied to the Apple ecosystem because all of my family and friends use iOS (I’m in the US), which means breaking out of that bubble and being the person turning the group chats green (or saying “can we move to telegram/WhatsApp/signal instead?”) or saying “sorry, I can’t FaceTime. Duo instead?” is not worth the bullshit that comes along with it. The stickiness factor of these services is far greater than zero.

While I agree with you on the topic of stickiness, I would like to mention that FaceTime now supports calls to Android devices. Regarding the bubbles, I can’t say I really understand the issue. I’ve had both android and iOS devices and the bubble bit has not been an issue that has kept me from interacting with friends and family. I think group chats between android and iOS had some issues pre-2016 but in my group chats I haven’t noticed any issues.

You can't initiate them from Android devices though. :(

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