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You make it sound like either/or but Vanced was never just about getting rid of ads.

I pay for YouTube Premium but Vanced was still appealing because it removes other things I don't want, like posts in my home feed, Shorts, YouTube Originals and sponsored segments of videos.

Vanced is about giving the user what the user wants, instead of what YouTube wants the user to want.

Lets be honest here. The majority of Vanced users used the app to circumvent ads.

Wait until you find out about TiVo, the "skip first" settings on podcast apps, or uBlock origin.

Not sure of the point of your comment...What I said holds true.

Other than just removal of ads, the vanced app enhanced the usability - like being able to hide the shorts, being able to set the default video resolution and default speed.

Not to mention sponsorblock - not that i use it, but i can understand people who do.

I have YT Red, but still use Vanced so I can disable "addictive" functionalities (primarily _Stories_) which I cannot disable in the regular YT app.

The Shorts are all crappy rips of TikTok videos anyway. Who would waste their time watching it?

*Shorts

YouTube has both shorts & stories as separate things, and I believe Vanced could remove both

It's a subpar service not worth the price they're charging. Sure there are no ads, but they still track the hell out of you. I might as well use this free improvement of YouTube's app.

So why use it if it's not worth it ? Or is the time you spend on it not worth 11$/month ? I'd guess that if you use it less than 11/month would be worth - you probably won't mind a couple of adds when you occasionally do watch it.

The problem is we don't like being extorted. We're not gonna pay for the "privilege" of not being shown ads. Especially since that'll make us even more valuable targets for advertisers, videos will still have paid promotion segments and Google will still be collecting information on us.

YouTube red doesn't have Sponsorblock, pure black dark theme, turn off cast buttons among other layout options. There's probably other stuff but these are some stuff I would love in addition to YTRed.

A lot of countries don't have YouTube Red, we're talking about millions of people here...

Because paying the subscription still gets you less features. It's not worth paying for.

you will use the features you're allowed to use and nothing more... you will buy into the walled garden and lose your account for mis-behaving... you will work 9-5 and do overtime over the holidays...

...and some people aren't content with that

Various features, as also mentioned by other commenters: - Sponsorblock - AMOLED dark mode - Swipe controls - Miniplayer - Improved resolution control - Dislike Button

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