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1: Small website with simple JS to ddos a list of russian gov and propaganda websites. Works anywhere where those are not blocked (e.g. Ukraine). Link - https://stop-russian-desinformation.near.page/

2. Console tool for unplanned load testing Link - https://github.com/codesenberg/bombardier/releases/tag/v1.2.... Example usage - ./bombardier-linux-amd64 --duration=240h --connections=1000 --latencies https://lenta.ru

UPD: For some of the sites, you may need to run Chrome with CORS disabled: https://alfilatov.com/posts/run-chrome-without-cors/

Windows: Right click on desktop, add new shortcut, Add the target as "[PATH_TO_CHROME]\chrome.exe" --disable-web-security --disable-gpu --user-data-dir=~/chromeTemp , Click OK. OSX: open -n -a /Applications/Google\ Chrome.app/Contents/MacOS/Google\ Chrome --args --user-data-dir="/tmp/chrome_dev_test" --disable-web-security , Linux: google-chrome --disable-web-security

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Russian visitors of my foss project (https://www.filestash.app/) now see the message of peace address to them by president Zelenskyy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwzb_JX7u04

Frankly, I think that's a much wiser approach than escalating the situation further with DDos attacks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolence

It's "not escalating the situation further" for the last few decades that's allowed this to happen. A good strong dose of escalation in 2014 when Russia annexed Crimea might have nipped this in the bud. If we avoid escalating now, Taiwan is next.

The cost of inaction has gone up, and up, and up. Now the Ukrainian people are paying that price in blood and subjugation. How much higher should we allow it to go?

DDOS-ing a website is nonviolent. Severe, crippling economic sanctions are nonviolent. We should wage all-out economic war and accept the costs, which will be real and painful. Gandhi and other pacifist leaders didn't advocate inaction, he advocated forceful and determined nonviolent action that caused as much inconvenience and difficulty for his opponents as possible. We should at least be doing that, surely?

Escalating? You realize they just invaded a sovereign country?

Like Iraq?

What's your point? Hadn't the US been DDOSed, Iraq wouldn't have been invaded? Your comment makes no sense.

Iraq was a sovereign country. My point is that it is ok for "us" to invade sovereign countries for "reasons" but not for "them" for any reason. It is hypocritical.

Do you even know what the discussion was in this thread? Doesn't seem like it.

I don't remember discussions about DDOSing US when they invaded Iraq. Do you?

That's what I mean. I can see you are frustrated by downvotes and suspect this big anti-Russian conspiracy - but did it occur to you that people would respond differently if you actually read what threads are about rather than just spamming your talking points everywhere? Case in point: here, we talked about whether DDoSing is an escalation to an ongoing invasion or not.

I'm talking about dehumanization, about "one standards for us vs. another standards for them" It is so ingrained that people like you, don't see anything wrong with it.

P.S. I don't care about downvotes. I'm surprised the account is not shadow banned.

See, and people like you put words in other people’s mouths, are unable to understand and follow a conversation and then conclude that the whole world is against them. But that’s not a problem because they just want to hear themselves. It’s just annoying for everybody else.

Direct quote, nobody puts anything in other peoples' mouths: «Russians are pure terrorist nation. They have larges Russian IT-community called Habr (Habrahabr) and most of IT Engineers started supporting invasion and killing innocent children because "west started blocking IT services for us".» https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30641888

what you are doing is called gaslighting. Why bother?

DDoS attacks are a perfect example of nonviolence.

Delusional bot, there's invasion out there.

spammer, can anyone delete this message?

Account created one hour ago, just to come here and tell us not to do this?

Update the targets with the following please: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/UndefinedProgramBehaviour/... then we can share as much as we can

Thanks for the list. I made a clone with your entries included + state railroad website: https://lostmsu.github.io/hack_russia/

BTW, the script is self-contained and pretty trivial, and can easily be modified to include more sites.

I will accept pull requests for any improvements: https://github.com/lostmsu/lostmsu.github.io/blob/master/hac...

NB: there is a sibling comment next to this one with an updated URL that you cannot see unless "showdead" is on

(Not linking the URL in case that's why the comment is dead)

Really, how much defensive value does this have for Ukraine?

DDOSing Russian news websites just allows them to cry victim - “look, they don’t want you to hear the truth!”.

Disrupting the Russian internet in general also harms any anti-war protesters trying to organize.

Russian 'news' is claiming Ukrainian Nazis are massacring ethnic Russians. They don't need a legitimate excuse.

Anyway, most Russians probably thought this was all bluster by the West and Russia wasn't going in. They need to know they're engaged in an actual war.

this. Not sure why this comment is downvoted. For anyone not speaking Russian, just head to Google News (with Chrome), pick the Russian news and translate into English and read the headlines (or if you're too lazy open this URL under Chrome https://news.google.com/topstories?hl=ru&gl=RU&ceid=RU:ru).

The comment above is a pretty accurate picture: protecting Ukrainian civilians, soldiers defecting to Russian side without even a fight, military generals telling success stories of their daily peace keeping operations and other face palming tales such as indeed a repeated idea that they fight against nazis to protect motherland under threat from evil NATO and the Americans.

Especially given that Ukranian President Zelenskiy is Jewish.

I mean, do you deny that the Ukrainian army has been shelling civilians in the separatist regions? A fellow countryman moved there since no one of the press bothered to report over the years and she confirmed it. And even apart from that, it's not like reports from the OSCE and UN aren't available. Furthermore, considering that the Ukrainian government enacted language and racial laws (can be easily looked up) and employs right-wing extremist military groups like the Azov Battalion as National Guard...it should give you something to think about. But well, most just blindly consume US(-controlled) media without doing some basic fact-checking even, let alone engage in critical thinking.

There is a serious issue with neo-nazi's in Ukraine who the U.S. supports because they are anti-russia. (I feel like I am living during the beginning of the Iraq war all over again.)

The press have been reporting the fighting in Donetsk and Luhansk since it started 8 years ago, what are you talking about?

Depends on which country you are from. There wasn't exactly reporting from it (at best only at the beginning) here which is why she moved there. Additionally, now the general tenor is that "Putin" invaded Ukraine basically without any reason even though there were several said by him. He even warned the Ukraine of consequences should they continue with the aggression when Russia formally acknowledged the separatist regions. In response, the Ukraine even increased the aggression (shelling etc).

He pumped money into the seperatists for years, destabalising the region even further than it would have been. There is no excuse for what he's doing.

You mean like paying social benefits (pensions etc)? Possibly. After all, Ukraine was supposed to do that according to Minsk II but they violated the agreement in more than enough points. Personally, I see the NATO sending weapons and establishing bases...ah, they don't call them "bases" but "mission" instead to train military and the like as destabilizing factors.

(Then there is also the interesting issue of American biolabs in Ukraine (and other countries bordering Russia). There were reports of what the US does there but we will see whether the Russians can still find anything or whether it's too late.)

Anyway, it's pretty much already over and the West won. Putin/Russia got painted as the baddies + more sanctions (e.g. Nord Stream II suspended, so now the US can sell their shitty, overpriced fracking stuff to the EU). The Ukraine got screwed over/played by the West but they had already achieved a lot of goals (getting access to all the rich soil + controlling it for example as well as dividing brothers and sisters by supporting nationalists to the point where we now have those language/racial laws). But hey, apparently a lot of Western people support such a government. "Slava Ukraini/Heil Ukraine", as they say.

I love that HN has all sorts. To read a pro-dictator, pro-invasion, pro-authoritarianism argument is still a surprise, but at least it's something new to read.

U ok hun?

> Really, how much defensive value does this have for Ukraine?

No defensive or tactical advantage whatsoever.

It just means that they have nothing to fight with. Internet field marshals that are doing last minute squeaking towards Russia. They are at best reactionary attacks which are predictable and easily mitigated against.

It is the job of the Russian people to stand up and refuse to participate in this conflict. Anything that makes their lives harder so they are more likely to do that, as opposed to just sitting around on their ass, is a good thing. The Russians need to band together and topple their dictator state, they are acting unethically and there needs to be a groundswell of support to oust someone like Putin. Simple democracy will not work there to change things like it could in the U.S. (voters were able to get rid of Bush for being a war monger).

Would you say the same for the Americans and USA's warmongering? Or for the Jewish people and the situation at Gaza?

Voters got rid of Bush but this did not stop the unjust American wars.

The Russian citizens are people just like us, powerless and with their own peace to protect.

Voters in fact did not get rid of Bush. Unless you mean HW.

Maybe they're giving the US credit for not giving Bush more terms than he was legally allowed to serve, which is more than you can say for Russia/Putin.

It's the job of the Canadian people to stand up to oppression and fight the governmental overreach... etc etc

Yes. It is. What's your point? If the truckers of Canada try to shut down the country over a vaccine mandate, seems the Russians should consider this a reason to do their best to shut down Russia.

My point is _look how well it went for them in an incredibly non authoritarian regime_. Look how effectively they changed policy! Look how little personal cost it has had!

People like to act as though they'd be the person in the crowd who would rush a lone gunman first. Sure - you'll die, but the group will get the gunman and everything will be better. They definitely love to proclaim that some other bugger in that situation should be willing to take the bullet.

I, personally, hope I never have to make the decision between dying doing the right thing and living doing the easy thing. I've no intention of judging those who do.

Yeah but it was a very small minority that were protesting. Why? Because they were protesting a vaccine mandate which isn't literal evil. Every Russian that isn't a piece of shit should be protesting this and shutting down the entire country.

Please see my other comment in this thread. Either there is some hypocrisy involved or you just called basically everyone here (probably including yourself) a "piece of shit" for not shutting down the USA during its various invasions in the last 20 years.

Just because a country claims to represent you, you don't have the moral obligation to oppose it while risking your personal wellbeing.

> in this conflict

They don't know there's a war going on.

Voters kept Bush Jr. in office for a second term. Term limits got rid of him.

If you're referring to Bush Sr., then this is also incorrect. The economy and Ross Perot got rid of him.

I am still learning how to code certain things in JavaScript, I'll take a look on the site to see how this is implemented and will record a few weeks of response times so I can analyze the variance.

Sounds like interesting research!

Constantly errors by triggering cross-origin / access control checks in browser: is this intended and is the tool still effective in spite of this?

The preflight requests themselves consume a small amount of bandwidth, so at scale I guess it could work?

Thank you for feedback! In order to work effectively vs some sites, you may need to run Chrome with CORS disabled: https://alfilatov.com/posts/run-chrome-without-cors/

Windows: Right click on desktop, add new shortcut, Add the target as "[PATH_TO_CHROME]\chrome.exe" --disable-web-security --disable-gpu --user-data-dir=~/chromeTemp , Click OK.

OSX: open -n -a /Applications/Google\ Chrome.app/Contents/MacOS/Google\ Chrome --args --user-data-dir="/tmp/chrome_dev_test" --disable-web-security Linux: google-chrome --disable-web-security

No. What you clearly teaching is utmost harmful for the security. Are you going to be responsible if someone lose money from their bank account? And please don't expect all hackernews reader to understand the meaning of cors. Not all of us are fronted developer right?

The best way is to create some node or binaries (rust/go/c++) and run them.

https://pastebin.com/preUNcNR

I wonder why Chrome even has such setting, like what's the use case for it?

When you do local web developement, I enabled it for example.

But of course never browse the web with this instance of disabled security.

Does CORS security work on the client side response data? The server should still receive the load, right?

Is it better to have that tab open or use LOIN directed at https://www.rt.com/

You can check using Task Manager.

That tab did not seem to generate much traffic. LOIC is outdated and I think is protected against nowadays.

I have tried looking at DNS amplification but their are no guides or publicly accessible software for it and people are not particularly happy when I asked around about it

"The "official" news in russian federation are all fake and we believe it is better to shut them down!"

Now the people are the censors? In the fog of war, how can we judge information if we have no access to the information?

Is it fake news that the U.S. said that they would not let N.A.T.O. into Ukraine?

As with all technologies, they come with responsibility. Acting as self censors is just as bad as letting the government do it for you.

I know this is an unpopular opinion, but think of what happened at the begging of the Iraq war and the lies of WMDs.

>"The "official" news in russian federation are all fake and we believe it is better to shut them down!"

No difference with Fox News, Sky News and most TV channels from Spain, them.

They tried to pass a Chinese explosion (causality) as a war bombing from Russians.

The first website only puts ~500KBps of load, according to Task Manager. Is it even effective?

Sometimes it's less about the size of the payload and more about # of requests. Especially when targeting the application layer.

Somebody just hacked a TV station in Vladivostok, and put a documentary about Putin's golden toilet on loop

Are there any links to a recording?

Forget the recording, I wanna see a video of it playing on an actual TV showing that it's actually displaying free-to-air signal.

Not in Vladivostok, but it seems that all satellite uplinks of Russian TV channels are hacked now https://twitter.com/a_latkovskis/status/1497627592677117952 . It means that all of remote Russian regions relying of satellite feeds for local TVs are now watching documentaries on Putin's golden loo, and Ukraine war feeds.

lol

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