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I'd rather use Secretive (https://github.com/maxgoedjen/secretive), to be honest.

I've stopped using 1Password everywhere I can due to their product "focus", and am working my way through a set of alternatives (currently using Secrets on the Mac and looking at the KeePass ecosystem, which keeps improving monthly):

https://taoofmac.com/space/apps/1password

Edit: It's been fun watching this get upvoted and downvoted in successive waves - for those who are curious, I suggest you check previous posts on 1Password and see if you can spot patterns in their advocates, since they were publicly called out on this a few times already (especially on Twitter).

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I started using it back when because it just worked and I could keep my passwords synced between devices (windows, iOS and Mac) via Dropbox. Before that I used KeePass, but its Linux and Android clients were terrible.

I still have 1password 4 on Windows PC and (apparently) version 7 on Mac; they still work together, but I'm afraid at some point they will decide to drop support for dropbox and force you to use their subscription.

I'll stop paying for Dropbox and using 1password on that date.

(does Syncthing work on iOS devices? I'm not sure yet how to keep my passwords synced across devices)

Frankly I'd rather pay for 1Password sync that have Dropbox installed on my machines anymore with all the low-level hackery and product shenanigans they've pulled as the internal pressure to "innovate" and move up market has taken hold.

I'm also worried about 1Password in the long-term with this recent VC investment which likely will create the same kind of pressures, but for now they still have the best product in the space by far and I'm in no hurry to switch to an inferior product in order to save $3/month.

That's reasonable if you don't already pay for any cloud synchronized storage solution.

But many of us already pay for cloud file syncing across our devices and 1Password's previous solution worked just fine. Having it removed so they can charge their SaaS fees feels like a blatant worsening of the product.

"Blatant worsening" is overstating the case a bit IMHO.

I understand how you could object to the pricing model. I understand if 1Password sync works worse than whatever file sync you have (in my experience it's been better than Dropbox but YMMV).

However I don't think a unified data sync that all your apps plug into is some kind of unassailable product high ground. The tradeoffs for this are numerous and not always good, starting with the basic limitation that you now have a single type of sync semantics that operates at file granularity and can not optimize for the domain. Personally I don't see the huge value of having an encrypted binary blob syncing through my one-true-sync-solution—what am I gonna do with that file outside of 1Password anyway? To take some other examples I am perfectly happy to let Apple sync my Contacts and Google sync my calendar and email, and I don't object to paying for those things if they bring me significant value. It's not like I have 100 SaaS subscriptions, but 10-20 sure, and I'm happy to pay a fraction of what I pay to heat my house or streaming subscriptions in order to support solid development and maintenance of a handful of critical apps and services I use.

To be fair I'm not familiar with the dropbox+1pass combo solution you're referring to, but I imagine that the people using that solution are in the minority and that by focusing on one unified solution and not spending time supporting an old one probably provides net positive experiences across their product.

I kind of agree that if it works and it's in place just leave it be, but if it needs maintenance time, support time, and even development time as the product evolves then I can see the "business folks" pushing for the removal of those features so the team can focus on what more people are using.

I have been using KeePassXC on Linux for years, it works great.

On Android, you want KeePassDX which can be found on f-droid.

I have multiple keepass databases and keep them in sync with a self-hosted Nextcloud instance.

The same, but with syncthing, I don't really see the utility of giving 1password or any company my ssh passwords or my passwords, like they're there for anyone to attack

Syncthing does work on iOS devices via Möbius Sync. It's not perfect but does the job. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/möbius-sync/id1539203216

In my case I downvoted because you're breaking the Hacker News guideline about accusations of astroturfing [0].

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#:~:text=Ple...

> I've stopped using 1Password everywhere I can due to their product "focus",

What do you mean by this?

Secretive doesn’t work if you have existing keys that you want to use from an agent, and it can’t act as a regular agent. It _also_ does not work for Git signing via SSH key, if I remember correctly.

If _those_ issues could be fixed, I’d probably use Secretive. Unfortunately, it broke almost all of my workflows when I installed it and it appears that the choice to use Secretive is all-or-nothing.

I agree. They disabled 1Password for Firefox on iOS and force users to use safari with 1Password extension. Before you could access it through share menu and get forms filled out, but they removed that feature. Reached out to support regarding that and their answer was just to use safari.

I use iOS, Firefox and 1Password to fill out passwords regularly. I just logged out of HN and back in on my iPhone just to test. Is there certain versions that this affected?

Firefox for iOS apparently.

[UPDATE] although reading the replies, it looks like that appears to work. Can’t confirm as don’t use Firefox on iOS.

There is no extension to use 1Password with FF on iOS. iOS recognizes 1Password as part of the normal password system on the device. I, and others in this thread, have no problem doing so.

Password filling on iOS and Android is built in to the OS. There's no need for an extension anywhere.

I use 1Password on Firefox in iOS without an extension, just use the keyboard suggestion when a password field is focused as in Safari or other apps.

Is that Firefox specific? I am still able to use 1password with Brave on ios 15.3.1 (iphone 12 mini)

I use Firefox on iOS with 1password (to fill in passwords) just fine.

It still works for me on Firefox, latest iOS.

Massive fan of Secretive myself. Use it for all my SSH keys.

1Password cloud product is kinda expensive. $19.99 per month. I didn't see a free option for personal use.

Is there a way I could use this on my devices with my own cloud setup (eg. dropbox/google drive/ etc.,)?

Did you mistype $2.99? Because it's $2.99 for one person. The $19.99 is for ten team members using the business product. A family of 5 gets it for $5 per month.

yes, sorry my bad. It is $2.99. By default pricing page goes to "Team & Business" tab. I need to select "Personal & Family" for the price I was looking for my use case. Thanks!

It's 100% worth it in my opinion. I've been using it for 8 years now.

Strange. I think I pay 50-60 a year.

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