That is not what wokeism means.
Wokeism is about
- making boys and men feel shameful for being boys and men
- making white people feel shameful for being white
- and other such things.
What you talk about is not something that any reasonable HNer would call wokeism.
They’ve only been running things since the outset of our country, and literally using the force of law and violence to guarantee their social dominance for generations.
If we point that out, and how injustice in the past impacts the present, white dudes will feel bad, and that’s intolerable.
Edit: I am a white dude. And I don’t feel shame, I feel responsibility. Ask a German how they feel about Hitler.
> And I don’t feel shame, I feel responsibility.
This is spot on. There is nothing to feel ashamed or guilty.
If anything, people can feel GOOD about creating a world where people are judged for their actions rather than attributes they have no control over.
Now imagine you are living in Russia. Over centuries you were a poor peasant, always at the mercy of someone. In the end you believe all your woes will end if you join others in yet another attempt to make things right, you kill the tzar, and soon you realized you just exchanged one tyrant for another. This is going on more or less until today. Nothing here has anything to do with race. It's similar in many other countries. But Americans have the tendency to perceive everything through their own context and project it onto the whole world. It makes no sense.
The specifics differ, but the general themes are the same.
None of these things are even remotely true, therefore wokeism (by your definition) can be dismissed as nonsense.
Almost no HNer has anything approaching a reasonable, good-faith or even well-informed opinion on "wokeism" to begin with.
Maybe it has just taken a meaning unrelated to the original meaning, just like "evangelical".
But I am afraid that just like evangelical, woke has been tainted beyond repair.
- inventing pronouns and demand people use them
- modern cancel culture
- probably a few more
Pronouns: White people used to call black people terrible things too. Things change.
Cancel culture is a moral panic like the satanic panic and strangers with candy kidnapping. https://kottke.org/22/02/cancel-culture-is-a-moral-panic
Got more fictions to peddle? GOP introduced bills to make it legal to run over protestors in your car, illegal to teach about slavery, and consider the violent insurrection of Jan 6th “legitimate political discourse”.
Here's some feedback on how that woke initiative is going: https://joemiller.us/2021/12/chicago-mayor-who-pushed-80m-de...
Seems quite apparent to me over the last couple years that it is indeed controversial. Perhaps there wouldn't have been protests, riots, etc. if it weren't.
That some folks consider it to be speaks more about them than anything else.
This is lited almost straight from the article isn't it?
"If you disagree with our group you are dumb."
> while the worlds powerful institutions are built upon white male supremacy.
See what I wrote above about trying to make people ashamed to be born white or male.
Also I'm not representing any "group". I'm just speaking for myself. Seems like you see this as some kind of team sports?
You did say that white males where the root of the problem.
I am a white male.
White male supremacy is an ideology, not an identity. Anyone can be white male supremacist, regardless of gender or race. Also, you can definitely be a white male who's not a white male supremacist.
So where do these have their meetups?
Where can I find contemporary writings that explain the superiority of white males?
In the US the most obvious mainstream example is republicans upholding white male supremacist laws. Of course they avoid direct language and use dog whistles instead, because saying out loud that you're a white male supremacist isn't a good look anymore. Of course the democrats do it too, but their dog whistles are more subtle and not as obvious.
> You did say that white males where the root of the problem.
Are you now moving the goalpost?