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> It's already known that vaccines increase rates of Myocarditis, especially amongst young males.

An Israeli study showed an incidence rate of 2.13 cases/100k people [1] - the common incidence rate for myocarditis in the US is ~22/100k [2].

COVID-19 itself has a 146/100k incidence of myocarditis, in contrast [3].

So please, stop spreading that "vaccines increase the rate of myocarditis", there is no evidence that supports this. And especially, get vaccinated because the complications from COVID-19 are way worse both in severity and rate.

[1]: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110737

[2]: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S073510971...

[3]: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035e5.htm

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I personally know a young man without health complications who developed significant lasting cardiac symptoms strongly correlated with each dose of vaccine who has struggled so far to get a diagnosis after months, quite doubtful he even ended up one of those statistics.

Please stop trying to silence people because you don’t want what they suggest to be true.

I am not at all an anti vaccine person but after I had some inflammation in one of my eyes hours after my second dose, I won’t be getting any more without significant evidence addressing safety concerns.

I am also not a statistic because I did not make an appointment with an ophthalmologist, I didn’t feel like waiting weeks or paying thousands of dollars unless my symptoms persisted (they didn’t).

It is not that implausible that the vaccine is triggering autoimmune damage to some organs, often at initially subclinical extents. It is also not implausible that vaccine morality is making researchers and doctors overly conservative about researching and sharing information about this.

We cannot let anecdotal evidence dictate anything. You're free to not get the vaccine, but at large we cannot base any recommendations on "I know someone that ..." stories.

Most of the western world has free health care and people report any small sign of unexpected side effects and they do count in this statistic. An especially during this pandemic people have been very good at contacting their doctor with adverse side effects.

> The risks are more evenly balanced in younger persons aged up to 40 years, where we estimated the excess in myocarditis events following SARS-CoV-2 infection to be 10 per million with the excess following a second dose of mRNA-1273 vaccine being 15 per million

So according to this study, if you're under 40 and have taken the Moderna vaccine, you are more likely to develop Myocarditis than after a Covid infection.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0

Table 2 in Link [1] shows an incidence rate for young males of 10.69 not 2.13?

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