"i pushed da bisikel off da ruf"
Is difficult to read, but not impossible to understand.
Anyone under the age of about 60 seems to be completely used to a wide array of (sometimes bizarre) accents, Chinglish grammatical constructs and semi-illiterate spelling.
It's... complicated. If you sort of squint the writing system is maybe the same in the sense that across different Chinese varieties cognates are almost always written the same way (e.g. Cantonese and Mandarin). But a lot of non-prestige Chinese varieties don't really have a standardized writing systems (although a very interesting phenomenon is that speakers can generally tell you when a given word has an associated character(s) they could write down for you and when they can't think of one). So usually when a writer of a non-prestige Chinese variety writes she/he is writing in Mandarin, not in the variety itself.
Nonetheless, there have e.g. been historical Chinese novels written in non-prestige varieties (e.g. in Min or Wu) so in that sense yes the same writing system can and has been used, but different authors might use different characters depending on how they understand the relationship of certain words to the prestige variety.
Even the different languages part is complicated. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16844074
As for what phonetic "spelling" out happens in Chinese, usually a loan character is used (e.g. if live transcribing something where the transcriber hears some unfamiliar words, the usual solution is to write down characters with the same sound and mention that this is purely a sound loan in parentheses).
I can't remember his name or the name of his project though.
Just for note, it would look something like this:
Bézd on máj veri fonetikalli vrittn nétív táng, áj (sz)ink áj kud mep…
(Sz is a single letter in hungarian in this context)
Seems to work fine for Vietnamese.
There's a word for this: Quebecois
This has been tried.
https://luminusdadon.wordpress.com/2006/05/04/how-english-be...
For example, "Co" would be pronounced like "Tso", whereas "Ĉo" would be pronounced like "Cho".
Pronunciation is completely standardised, with stress (almost?) always placed on the penultimate syllable.
letter E, called "eee", makes the sound "ae"
letter I, called "aai", makes the sound "ee"
letter A, called "aae", makes the sound "uh"
super confusing for some kids
and in my non-english-native schooling we were never ever taught "vowel sounds" in our English classes - we only learnt vowels as letters. beyond A for Apple and introducing common words like Car and House and Tree ... the curriculum never bothered about teaching how to speak English
There is no difference at all between what you call a letter and how it sounds when it is used in a word. Reading is simply sounding out each letter as you go from left-to-right.
Things like băss and bāss. Obviously those marks can be confusing if they're substituted in for words where the spelled vowels are different than the pronounced vowels (like yo̅o̅ for "ewe"). I guess those were the advanced words we'd learn after the basics were taught. But first, the "Evil E" :)
Phonetics lies, asunder.
to quote an old greeting card, for example
People underestimate the amazing pattern recognition the brain can do if you feed it obscene amounts of input.
Didn’t you literally have spelling lessons at schools as a kid where you’d have lists of words to learn?
Ugh.
[1] https://www.apmreports.org/episode/2019/08/22/whats-wrong-ho...
Are you sure? I'm a native Spanish speaker and mastered the "whole bunch" (ce, ci, que, qui, gue, gui) by the age of four.
Let me remind you that I was answering to your comment where you say:
...read signs and essays aloud without having the faintest idea of what they're saying.
This can be done just learning the independent sound of each letter and the six exceptions that I mentioned.
Graphic accent rules are a bit more complex, but we also learn them by the time we're seven or eight years, so we can use in our writing. They're not essential for reading.
Depends on accent. Some regions do diferenciate. Same with S/C/Z
Depends on accent. Some regions do diferenciate.
Maybe because, as I wrote in a previous comment, they speak another language that does have different sounds.
But again: it's irrelevant for a foreigner learning to read standard Spanish. When you learn English they won't teach you cockney, they teach you some standard pronuntiation.
That doesn't sound right. What variety of Spanish are you familiar with that sometimes distinguishes B from V?
The only glaring exception I run into in Spanish is "que" being pronounced "ke."
Doesn't seem that way to me; the native speakers I’ve known tend to pronounce the X’s different ways in:
México / Oaxaca
vs.
Xochilmilco
vs.
Ixtlan / Tepexpan
"X" in Mexican might be shorthand for sharp mystery consonant.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reajuste_de_las_sibilantes_del...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonological_history_of_Spanis...
With the Serbian Latin/Croatian alphabet it gets a little complicated because it uses digraphs such as lj(љ in Cyrillic), nj(њ)and dž(џ).
People are extolling Italian here, but note that for those three sounds it uses the digraphs gl, gn, and gi.
But it's still a million times better than English.