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Albania is the safest country in Europe when it comes to robberies

https://landgeistdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2021/10/europe-r...

This is surprising to most americans, but the Western EU countries are the least safe when it comes to mugging, stealing, and general crime.

Maybe it is family values, or the fact that many people have immigrated to work in the richer countries, countries in the Balkans are really chill and crime free. The only danger is driving, as the drivers are probably not the best and roads can be tight.

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> This is surprising to most americans, but the Western EU countries are the least safe when it comes to mugging, stealing, and general crime.

This map would also be surprising to Europeans.

This map was generated based on data from Eurostat, "who bases these number on police reports from each country." (sic, cf. https://landgeist.com/2021/10/12/robbery-rate/).

So... the obvious question, then, is how many robberies do not result in a police reports in each country, and how good each country is at reporting all robberies to Eurostat.

I suspect that this map is more of a reflection of the rate of reporting for robberies than the actual rate of robberies, which is why the map is so surprising: it's misleading and does not reflect reality.

If you can make up claims without backing them up with anything, so could anyone: I raise you and say that there are more unreported robberies in Western EU countries.

FWIW, I cannot imagine anyone in Serbia being robbed without reporting it to police (and since you usually lose your ID document if it's your wallet or purse, you have to go to police to report it stolen/lost and get a new one issued), unless it's something like multiple gangs against each other.

What I can imagine not being reported are attempted-but-failed robberies, but that strikes me as something anyone anywhere would not report to avoid the hassle for no gain.

> The only danger is driving, as the drivers are probably not the best

lol! yeah balkans has many schumachers, of all ages and genders too :)

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