Mandatory school vaccinations, mandatory military vaccinations, mandatory drug testing in many jobs, etc. Why did no one lose their minds over those things?
Mandatory school vaccinations, mandatory military vaccinations, mandatory drug testing in many jobs, etc. Why did no one lose their minds over those things?
Gov: it is not a punishment.
Victim: But, but ...
Gov: Sorry but it is your problem / choice / insert your favorite hypocritical BS
I haven't seen any mass protests about at-will employment. Why not?
> It follows that "do X or you're fired" is a form of force or coercion.
But we've had these things around for decades. Vaccines have been required in other jobs, tests have been required for jobs, and yet no mass protests. Why not?
> Threatening someone with a severe material consequence and then saying "it's not force because it's your choice" isn't an argument most people are going to accept, and I find it interesting that you're resorting to it, because it's surely not the strongest argument for your position.
It actually is the strongest argument, because it's true. No one is being forced.
The cases are not comparable because if an at-will employee loses a job with one employer, the employee can often find a job with another employer.
> Vaccines have been required in other jobs, tests have been required for jobs, and yet no mass protests. Why not?
The cases are not comparable because, as far as I know, there is no testing option in the Canadian regulation. Also, as far as I know, there is no exception made to the 14-day quarantine period for those who cannot be vaccinated because of either a negative reaction to a prior vaccine or deeply held religious convictions.
And so can anyone fired for not begin vaccinated, since there are many more jobs that don't require a vaccine than those that do.
> The cases are not comparable because, as far as I know, there is no testing option in the Canadian regulation.
It depends which jobs we're talking about. Make so mistake, this "trucker" protest has been coopted by basically anyone mad about vaccines. So for instance Alberta healthcare workers do not have to get vaccinated, but are subject to periodic testing instead.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. The jobs I was referring to are Canadian cross-border trucking jobs, all of which are affected. Affected truckers may be able to transition to other trade routes, but they may face hardships (e.g., increased time away from family, lower pay, expenses for required additional training, or opportunity losses relating to non-use of expertise gained in cross-border work).
Yes, the powers that be chose to force an unnecessary vaccine on working class people, and this is the consequence.
Can we quit using this sinister thought-terminating cliche?
No one was forced to get a vaccine. Period.
Urbanites will regret their fickle treatment of the key workers who provide them with food and Amazon deliveries.
Do X or you're fired is literally the basis for all employment.
> If you think it's easy to just "get another job", you are speaking from a position of immense economic privilege. It's tantamount to "let them eat cake".
Demand for labour is immense right now. I'm sure you've noticed. People are fired all the time for a number of reasons.
> Urbanites will regret their fickle treatment of the key workers who provide them with food and Amazon deliveries.
They won't, because the vast majority of truckers are vaccinated, working, and against this occupation.
Big Canadian company that does much software development has sent mail to their (never mind employees) but subcontracting companies - get vaccinated or you are out.
As such extra skepticism is permissible.
At this point it's been well shown that it's safe and that being unvaccinated is much more dangerous.
Time to grow up.
There are countless compounds (mercury, lead, smoking particles) which take years to show their harm and were once considered safe by science.
Do I think the vaccine will join those ranks? No, but I don’t want to oversell it’s safety either.
The only things they have in common is the name and the end goal.