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> If you punch a person in a supermarket, you are not banned from supermarkets.

Uh, I dunno. We definitely banned disruptive people from our supermarket. And we’d happily let other supermarkets nearby know that Mr. X was an asshole that should be treated with extreme caution (and vice versa).

I don’t see why the government needs to get involved with this though. Airlines are perfectly capable of making and sharing such a list themselves.

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But you can't ban them from all supermarkets in the country forever. That's what the no-fly list does.

If the supermarkets share such a list: why not?

There is a reason not all sentences are life sentences. Sometimes people do things wrong and if they are willing to change their ways we as a society should forgive them if it's safely possible. Just because someone does something wrong once doesn't mean they are that person forever.

Essential business. So now that person needs to rely on other people for groceries?

Actions have consequences, you say?

I can't explain it but every time I hear that phrase I get a very visceral feeling of injustice. The phrase represents extrajudicial punishment by a mob or powerful entity, and the negation of fairness, proportionality, and due process, often expressed by a person who does not care because they are certain that they themselves will not fall victim to abuses of such systems.

Why would it ban them forever? That’s something you can choose to do, or not.

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