700 a day???
Why did you undercharge by so much.
I know the EU dev market isn't great but those are rookie numbers for "danger money."
Three of the "retired, then handed enough money to unretire" COBAL guys at my old place were doing 2500 a day.
Why did you undercharge by so much.
I know the EU dev market isn't great but those are rookie numbers for "danger money."
Three of the "retired, then handed enough money to unretire" COBAL guys at my old place were doing 2500 a day.
Like the going rate for a senior here is 900, and a good senior is 1200+. So your starting offer would be at least 1800, probably 2000s to round it up.
Which is the high end of your zone of possible agreement (900-1200) plus 50% for danger money, plus a few hundred to round it up to 2k.
Then you see what happens when you throw out the big number.
Consider that most parts of the world have lower cost of living than the Bay Area.
I have no idea what typical salaries are in the EU, but that’s on the low end of mid-career for much of the US.
If you take the run of the mill Java dev salary here, the net value is somewhere between 900 - 3000 Euros or so, across all levels of seniority [1]. Really makes one consider the benefits of working for companies in other countries, assuming that there are no cultural or time zone issues that cannot be dealt with.
Or, you know, to acquire skills that are high in demand but relatively low in supply.
[1] - https://www.algas.lv/en/salaryinfo/information-technology/ja...
Take Ireland for example. You're not going to be making US level money but I'd say you could easily double what you're making now and there's the potential to go much higher than that.
Well, at least as long as the culture fit is there etc., admittedly remote isn't for everyone, but on the flip side, geography/commute being less of an issue for the remainder of people is great!
If you earn 30% more than a salaried employee you are barely breaking even most of the time.
And that's without the expenses, extra healthcare coverage, insurance etc.
So pretty average when you considering that junior developer salaries are within this reach in EU capitals.
Junior developers make 75.000€ after taxes? They make about 50 - 60.000€ BEFORE taxes.
I used 4 weeks, and by my experience that's generous (not talking about paid leave - all the freelancers I know are workaholics and don't take much leave, but maybe that's a US thing).
5*48 = 240 days, which works out to around 84000 EUR. Or 120,000 EUR - 30%.
Regardless, 700 EUR/day seems in the ball-park for a generic all-around developer.
£500/day is the absolute minimum for developer/DevOps outside London, £600/day much more common and including the cheap end for London. Senior is more often £800/day. You don't see values above that advertised, but people do obviously negotiate higher for specialist work; I have seen a mainframe developer charging £1500/day (on the low end of his range). Anything higher than that has always been a large consultancy rather than a freelancer. In my specialist niche I'd be asking for £1500/day top-end, expecting £800-1200 with negotiation depending on flexibility.
Implying that other developers in my area are available for less than I ask.
I mean, if a person is able to extract 700€ per day, kudos to them but that's still above the 90th percentile of senior developers in Europe.
They can attempt to prove it.
Probably higher now.
The least you could do for "danger money" is 1200 EUR a day (and limit yourself to 4 days a week, but that's another story).