Regardless, i doubt people waving swastikas and demanding that democratic leaders be replaced with a dictatorship is exactly the type of "standing up to government" gofundme envisioned.
It's very basic stuff here.
If they are having counter protests e.g.seperate protests within proximity but clearly distinct, then no.
If you're in a group and someone starts throwing stones at a cop, you help the cop get that person (at the very least by getting away from that person so you don't interfere with the cop). If you're in a group and a person joins the group and pulls out a Nazi flag, then you kick that person out of the group unless your group sympathizes with Nazis.
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The Gadsen flag for most people is a symbol of independence and freedom. Historically it was not associated with slavery, the confederate secession, or the civil war.
Either way, confederate flags aren't normally flown in racist intent. Most people fly them to represent their heritage. The Dixie line, Outlaw country, etc.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a libertarian from deep Georgia fly both and not be racist in the slight.
I think you need to leave your bubble and learn about the people you are trying to demonize.
That may be an inconvenient truth for those who want to avoid its tainted history but it's definitely not nonsense.
Don't take my word for it -- feel free to peruse the selection at your local confederate flag dealer:
https://ruffinrebel.com/product-category/gadsden/
https://rebelnationok.com/page/2/?s=gadsden&post_type=produc...
Or show up to your local Klan rally:
https://contexts.org/files/2017/09/Charlottesville_-Unite_th...
If you want to fly a patriotic flag in the US, I'd suggest the American one.
This[2] is one example how protesters react when they try to infiltrate the actual crowd.
[1]: https://twitter.com/stobione/status/1489320295764660228
[2]: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1488325761572478981
I haven’t followed this but have heard friends saying that Nazis are participating. I would expect that this means some Nazis were participating. But these images don’t show that.
The confederate flags just seem like jerks.
But yes, Nazis are getting involved with the anti-vax protests, on the same side as Trump, not on Science's side.
In Germany’s east, far-right extremists find footholds in escalating anti-vaccine protests:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/01/30/coronavirus-...
>While Kohlmann contends that Free Saxons is not an extremist group, German authorities say it is clearly so. The co-founder, Stefan Hartung, is a member of the district council for Germany’s National Democratic Party, a neo-Nazi party. Kohlmann professed to seek the return of the Saxon monarchy and independence for the state.
>He said the pandemic is an opportunity to reach more people. A “much broader range” of demonstrators join the weekly walks on Monday than anti-immigrant rallies.
>He doesn’t have to reach out to people, he said. They are coming to him.
>“It’s exploding,” he said of the group’s social media presence. The Free Saxons’ Telegram channel had 48,000 followers in August 2021, it has now grown to more than 140,000.
The intent of swastikas in that situation isn’t pro-nazi or anti-Semitic.
I’m not sure what real Nazis in Germany being anti-vax has to do with our conversation. RFKJr is anti-vax too, what does that matter about this convoy.
I was trying to figure out if there were Nazis in the convoy. It seems like there aren’t.
Nazis were/are violent sociopaths who are a threat to people. They’re scary. People making nazi metaphors and deeply offending you aren’t a threat to people. That’s not newsworthy to me.
It’s like the people who think the Soup Nazi episodes of Seinfeld are deeply offensive. Because they compare delicious soup to Nazis. If TV guide reported that nazi paraphernalia was in those episodes it would be misleading. Seinfeld wasn’t pro nazi and there was no risk of them doing nazi things.
Also very far-right and nazis groups have joined the protest and were close to the organizers
https://www.antihate.ca/the_freedom_convoy_is_nothing_but_a_...
"Oh, everyone knows ipaddr! He hangs out with a bunch of Nazis that protest to entrench "born white" as the de facto ruling class of the country, kill all the gays and trans people, and to have two separate sets of laws, one that only applies to them, and one that applies to everyone else, but he's sweet as can be!"
No one is going to waste the brain power.
If the Nazi flag had Justin Trudeau's face on it I would instantly get the message that Trudeau is a Nazi not support for a group from a foreign country in the 1930s.
A nazi flag is a taboo topic with certain imagery attached. These protesters think Justin Trudeau has been acting like a nazi would.
You may agree or not but don't fail to understand the message.
Does this mean that you should be able to immediately end any protest you don't like just by going to it and then pulling out a Nazi flag when you get there?
Kolfage was indicted, along with Steve Bannon and two other co-defendants, on federal charges of defrauding hundreds of thousands of "We Build the Wall" donors by diverting money that was raised to personal use. Federal prosecutors said that despite "repeatedly assuring donors" that Kolfage would not be paid, the defendants engaged in a schemed to pass $350,000 to Kolfage "which he used to fund his lavish lifestyle." Kolfage was separately indicted in May 2021 on federal charges of defrauding the IRS and filing false tax returns.
I'm not surprised at all that they're ensuring things like this don't happen again.