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Funnily enough, TeamViewer Support replied with a solution to hide the popup (https://twitter.com/TeamViewer_help/status/14459761128662097...), and later (Original tweet Oct 7, 2021, new tweet Jan 14, 2022) new popups come up anyways: https://twitter.com/linusgsebastian/status/14818556255585894...

Seems the only correct way of using TeamViewer is to uninstall it and never use it again. If you paid "thousands of dollars" for something that doesn't do what it says it'll do when you pay, then you kindly request a refund, otherwise file a complaint with your local commission/bureau/ombudsman.

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Linus went over this on the WAN show. Apparently the option to hide pop-ups is only available to subscribers in the new subscriber version and is not an option for those on a perpetual license.

>Apparently the option to hide pop-ups is only available to subscribers in the new subscriber version

Paying for a subscription and yet still receive a debt collection notice doesn't instill a lot of confidence in the business practices of that company if this poster's comments are accurate: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27078542

That previous HN thread and Linus' tweet showing how they abuse their paying customers with nagware are enough to make me avoid them. What's the best paid or free alternative?

I’ve been content with AnyDesk. Personal use. Works well enough, has 2FA.

And, full of folks who've left Teamviewer.

relevant Video excerpt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCRzaGUKEFA&t=408s

> Seems the only correct way of using TeamViewer is to uninstall it and never use it again.

For anyone seeking alternatives, I found NoMachine[0] to be the closest free remote desktop experience similar to TeamViewer. My criteria was essentially:

- free tier like TeamViewer, but with no nagging

- needed to "feel" fast and responsive like TV, which I wasn't getting with every VNC/RDP flavor

- autoscaling resolution, or the option to have native resolution with "black bars" viewport when window is maximized

- option for shared clipboard (so copy/paste works between machines)

- file drag/drop between machines

The only thing NoMachine doesn't support is automatic tunneling; you need to connect with IP:Port similar to RDP. But I let that slide because all the other TeamViewer-like features were supported.

[0] https://www.nomachine.com/

If your host PC has an NVIDIA GPU, I strongly recommend Moonlight. It's for game streaming, but you can pass it an .exe to enable desktop streaming, and it is much better quality, latency, and bandwidth than any remote desktop experience I have tried. I'm pretty sure you can't use Linux as a host machine though, which really sucks.

> I'm pretty sure you can't use Linux as a host machine though, which really sucks.

There is a moonlight host for linux called Sunshine [1]. Works great on Ubuntu and Arch. Just note that it'll use software encoding unless your nvidia driver is patched to enable NvFBC, using nvlax or nvidia-patch [2]. But for non-gaming use, software encoding is more than sufficient with minimal latency compared to vnc.

[1] https://github.com/loki-47-6F-64/sunshine

[2] https://github.com/keylase/nvidia-patch

Second for moonlight. NVIDIA pulls the data right from the GPU framebuffer and compresses in-hardware. There are solutions that offer better quality (if you're a pro streamer it may not be rightfor you), but at the cost of more CPU and latency.

> The only thing NoMachine doesn't support is automatic tunneling; you need to connect with IP:Port similar to RDP

That's a major drawback, especially when you're trying to help non-tech-savvy people. You have to explain to them how to port forward or set up something like ngrok (just do it for them via TeamViewer - oh wait)

Yeah, I still use TeamViewer portable to help friends and family. For my own work purposes, I've switched to NoMachine.

Dark patterns are just that. They should be opt in, not opt out.

Agreed totally to just uninstall it.

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