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> All big corps require you to take this kind of training.

I've worked at a couple "big corps" as an internal developer. JPMC, BestBuy, Experian, etc. Never encountered it.

I suspect it's only for those companies in danger (or with a history of being charged with) breeching anti-trust.

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I worked at two Fortune 250s (both publicly listed) in completely different industries.

Both had antitrust training for all corporate employees not just leadership. I believe —but have no data—that this is common among publicly listed companies.

The discussion hasn't been circling back to "all big corps have this kind of training" in a more general sense, but in a more specific one.

There's antitrust training and there's ANY training that says "never use these words", which are wildly different.

Is there any big corp that doesn’t do “never use these words” training? “We are going to crush the competition” has been taboo in emails since the mid 1990s. Not to mention a lot of words that should be avoided for sensitivity reasons.

> Is there any big corp that doesn’t do “never use these words” training?

As I stated I've never seen it, in the context of anti-trust. If your company has to have that in literature, they are already skirting and it's just a matter of time.

All the companies are buying pretty much the same training units from the same set of providers. If you haven't experienced personally at the American office in the big corp you claim to work out, I'm not sure what to tell you.

> If you haven't experienced personally at the American office in the big corp you claim to work out, I'm not sure what to tell you.

It's disingenuous to continue to move the goalpost out to a more general scenario than what birthed the thread. Re-read the specific issue at hand. You can go to the companies mentioned and there is no anti-trust training, for developers (of any level) that covers what phrases or words you can say. Whatever "generalized training" you are handwaving about does not contradict that fact. GL with whatever.

I have had the training in companies not in danger of anti-trust, but only when in a leadership position, not as a developer. And not a single-purpose anti-trust class, but as part of a business ethics class or similar.

Maybe it depends on the industry? I've worked in big companies with big interests in goverment-regulated industries and every single person has had to do this sort of training, regardless of role (there'll be a course every month, and big responsibilities like anti-money laundering and corruption get rehashed yearly).

JPMC didn't have antitrust in the onboarding stuff? I find that difficult to believe. The bank I work for tells employees to never discuss products or prices with competitors without going through compliance. It's not really emphasized (it's one bullet point amongst many) but it's there.

I just checked and it's in the JPMC code of conduct on page 4,

https://www.jpmorganchase.com/content/dam/jpmc/jpmorgan-chas...

It's not unusual for required training for employees to be mandated in the aftermath of, say, a class action lawsuit. So maybe it wasn't the case when you were there, but became that way later.

Such training programs are often part of a settlement or judgement against a company that transgressed.

The guilty individuals are long gone, but everyone after them has to take a mandatory ethics/antitrust/anticorruption/sensitivity class each year.

s/all/many/

But the point of the argument is still valid -- it is present often enough and not only for nefarious purposes.

I've worked at one of the companies you've listed, definitely had to do anti-trust training.

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