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> You won't be buying million-dollar mansions on a European programmers salary

You won't be buying any decent apartment/house unless you move outside of city, buy a car and let go of all the benefits that comes with living in a European city.

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You can make it. But it is debt until retirement situation. Which is often not very convenient to lock yourself to.

We have a housing crisis also here in Europe.

Not true at all. I know plenty of people that live in nice houses and apartments in major European cities.

And I know lot of people still living with their parents - especially in Southern European countries.

Right. Which speaks to that "European city" is perhaps a bit of an overly broad concept for it to be useful.

And the thing is the people from these "European city" aren't low wage burger flipping workers. They are educated Phds, devs who struggle to live on their own or own a house.

Not true, I bought a house in Vienna for less than a quarter of what I would have paid for an apartment in Los Angeles. Okay, its not in Vienna (the state), but its close enough to not make any difference to my commute across town to work.

Your LA baseline is definitely much different than an average European. It's like how an American/Australian colleague moved to Berlin from Sydney, bought an apartment right in the middle of the city and paid it all in cash.

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