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Comment by mark_l_watson | Hacker News Reader

A bit off topic, but the last time I needed a Windows laptop for business reasons (a long time ago) I bought a laptop directly from Microsoft and it appeared to be secure and also not loaded with advertising junk. The price seemed OK, fairly competitive.

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When buying a Windows machine, you can purchase "Signature Edition" versions through Microsoft which will come with only the crapware selected by Microsoft, and not by the manufacturer

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gd/store/b/signaturepcs

https://www.howtogeek.com/402888/looking-for-a-microsoft-sig... looks like they dropped the program

It looks like that isn't available for those in the US, since the redirect takes me to a 'not available' page. Are the 'Signature Edition' versions at all available in the US?

Hmm good question, I just took what came up in Google which is apparently the "English (Grenada)" site. Maybe they've dropped this in the US.

It looks like they no longer offer it: https://www.howtogeek.com/402888/looking-for-a-microsoft-sig...

I had Surface 3 Pro and it was a nightmare. In the end, the SSD died and the way the machine is glued together, it's impossible to open without breaking the screen. Before its final death, it had problems with sleep/wake functions. A standard reinstall wouldn't fix it. Eventually had to take it back to Microsoft for a full re-image. That did the trick.

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