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This is so bullshit!

Basically, leaves non-security-aware people out in the cold. Instead of trying to champion good security practices and locking down their shit, they are saying "this is a glory hole, buyer beware" in a document that no one reads.

Sigh

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Why use a Ps3 when Xbox has the same titles and a serious security team?

Uncharted, Infamous, Little Big Planet, Demon's Souls, The Last Guardian, Twisted Metal — discounting the Halo series, PlayStation has a lot more interesting exclusives than Xbox. The only other Xbox exclusive I can think of that's so interesting is Left 4 Dead — which isn't even actually an exclusive, just not on PlayStation.

Also, Microsoft's dickish behavior makes the for-pay Xbox Live service worse than the free version of PSN (e.g. updates get held in limbo and publishers are forced to charge for them even though Microsoft isn't providing the servers or bandwidth AFAIK).

Some people prefer the PS3 - I do. No fanboyism etc, I just have been a loyal Playstation user since the start and have every one of the consoles - and there are major issues I have with the Xbox line - but those are my personal opinions. It sucks that Sony has been mismanaging all of this and definitely took shortcuts in inappropriate places - and instead of improving on those issues they are just making things worth with bad PR. I hope they can change that in the future, as I would still be purchasing a PS4 when that became available - unless they really don't get a clue and make things even worse.

"loyal playstation user". Why? I mean, I hear this all the time with banks. Customers come in expecting an amazing mortgage rate with their shitty credit scores because they've always been a "loyal customer". We have to try to explain that loyalty has little value to the bank, other than lifetime value, which is already factored into the pricing.

For the playstation/xbox, go where the fun is. Don't support a company out of misplaced "loyalty" because in the end, it just slows free market progression.

I have fun on the PS3 - and while there are some serious issue in how things are working behind the scenes, to me that's where the fun is. I like the Playstation line, and I like the exclusive games they have, but as I said it's all about opinion and if others prefer the Xbox line, then that's where they go for their games - and that's fine with me.

You should realize that fanboyism doesn't have to imply an irrational dislike of competing brands (which thankfully you seem to lack). It need only imply an irrational affinity for a brand. Why would you "like the Playstation line" for any reason other than "the exclusive games they have"?

It might seem like an irrational affinity for a brand - but besides the exclusive titles, I actually enjoy the interface, the controller feels more natural to me than that of the leading competing systems, I like having a built in blue-ray player, and above all I like that I have been able to run custom code on each of my Playstation consoles. Things like backwards compatibility were huge for me as well (which is why I have the original 60gb PS3 with PS2 compatibility). There are various reasons that I have stuck with this line - and as far I'm concerned they are valid reasons because they are my opinion of the system and the line. I own a Wii, and I had an Xbox - bottom line is they are not my preferred systems.

As an owner of a PS3 I've been perfectly satisfied with the free service and the capabilities of the PS3.

I think most of the people bitching about the things happening to Playstation don't actually own a PS3. But as an owner I can tell you I really didn't care about the security breach, perfectly satisfied that they gave me 2 free games, and have not experienced any issues running my PS3 without connecting to the PSN. The fact is, it's not out of loyalty, it's simply because the PS3 has been a great product for me (believe it or not).

> No fanboyism etc, I just have been a loyal Playstation user since the start

Oddest sentence I've ever read.

Fanboyism implies a level of obsession or passion that is greater than just loyalty -- to the extent that you won't say anything bad about them at all, and will attack anyone that does.

I'm on my fourth or fifth xbox 360 due to hardware failures. I lost track... that's one reason.

Xbox doesn't have the uncharted games, metal gear solid, demon souls, etc.

It's hardware is more reliable, it's a better media center, blu-ray, no fee for multiplayer.

I bought a PS3 over an XBox for two reasons. One, Bluray. But more importantly, a good friend of mine has a PS3, and I wanted to play games with him online.

The reason I bought a ps3 instead of an xbox was because of the exclusive titles (mainly mgs4).

I got a PS3 because of OtherOS (Linux). We all saw how that turned out...

Did you get it for gaming online too?

Because Microsoft is teh suxxors! </sarcasm>

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